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Notation as in Proposition 1.2: for a sequence BB, s(B)s(B) is the largest length of a subsequence whose set of values has no a,b,ca,b,c, not necessarily distinct, with a+b=ca+b=c.

Proposition 4.1 (p. 21, quoted). "For any sequence BB of non-zero reals, s(B)≥13∣B∣s(B)\ge\frac13|B|." The paper attributes the statement for sets BB to Erdős, in his 1965 paper (P. Erdős, Extremal problems in number theory, Proc. Sympos. Pure Math. VIII, Amer. Math. Soc. (1965), 181--189; Theorem 2 there), and says its proof is similar to that of Proposition 1.2.

Proposition 4.1' (pp. 21--22, quoted from p. 21). "For any sequence BB of non-zero reals, s(B)>13∣B∣s(B)>\frac13|B|."

For a set of nn nonzero reals this gives a sum-free subset of at least (n+1)/3(n+1)/3 elements, since the size is an integer.

Source. N. Alon and D. J. Kleitman, Sum-free subsets, in: A Tribute to Paul Erdős (A. Baker, B. Bollobás and A. Hajnal, eds.), Cambridge Univ. Press (1990), 13--26, DOI 10.1017/CBO9780511983917.003, as described on the source card: Section 4, item 1, Propositions 4.1 and 4.1' on p. 21, the proof of Proposition 4.1' on pp. 21--22.

Read depth. Claims checked: both statements and the attribution were read clause by clause on the page images. The proof was read and its steps followed, with the observation under Proof pointer; nothing here is independently reviewed.

Proof pointer

Pp. 21--22. Given nonzero reals b1,…,bnb_1,\dots,b_n, the paper finds integers c1,…,cnc_1,\dots,c_n with the same sign pattern on every signed sum: for each ϵ∈{±1,0}n\epsilon\in\{\pm1,0\}^n, ∑iϵici\sum_i\epsilon_ic_i has the sign of ∑iϵibi\sum_i\epsilon_ib_i. The 3n3^n sign conditions, each an equation or a non-strict inequality with a rational bound, form a linear program with rational coefficients that (b1,…,bn)(b_1,\dots,b_n) satisfies, so it has a rational solution, and clearing denominators gives the cic_i. The paper concludes that no cic_i is zero and s(B)=s(C)s(B)=s(C), and Proposition 1.2 gives s(C)>13ns(C)>\frac13n.

An observation made here on the printed argument: sign conditions with coefficients in {±1,0}\{\pm1,0\} preserve every relation bi+bj=bkb_i+b_j=b_k with i≠ji\ne j, but not a relation 2bi=bk2b_i=b_k, which the paper's sum-free condition also forbids. For B=(1,2)B=(1,2) the integer sequence C=(1,3)C=(1,3) meets every printed sign condition, yet s(B)=1s(B)=1 and s(C)=2s(C)=2. What the proof needs is s(B)≥s(C)s(B)\ge s(C), and it holds when the linear program also carries the sign conditions with coefficients in {0,±1,±2}\{0,\pm1,\pm2\}, which are rational and satisfied by (b1,…,bn)(b_1,\dots,b_n) in the same way; the statement is unaffected.

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  • Problem 792: Erdős posed the question for nn real numbers different from 00; for sets of nn nonzero reals this proposition gives a sum-free subset of at least (n+1)/3(n+1)/3 elements, the bound of Proposition 1.1 in Erdős's real formulation. It gives no upper bound.