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Source. The paragraphs spanning pp. 51--52 of P. Erdős, Combinatorial problems in geometry, Math. Chronicle 12 (1983), 35--54, the transcript of an invited address at the 17th New Zealand Mathematics Colloquium (Dunedin, 17--19 May 1982), as named on the source card. The lecture numbers none of its statements; the pages are the journal's own.

Statement

Definition (p. 51). n(k)n(k), if it exists, is the smallest integer such that any n(k)n(k) points in the plane, no three on a line, contain a convex kk-gon containing none of the points in its interior.

Reported values (pp. 51--52).

  1. n(4)=5n(4)=5, which the lecture calls trivial and sketches.
  2. n(5)=10n(5)=10, proved by Harborth.
  3. Nobody had proved that n(6)n(6) exists. Its non-existence would mean that for every tt there are tt points in the plane, no three on a line, with every convex hexagon containing one of the points in its interior. Harborth suggested that n(6)n(6) may exist while n(7)n(7) does not; Erdős says he does not know.

Erdős says he noticed the variant in 1976.

Read depth. Claims checked: the passage was read clause by clause on the page images of the print. A second reader checked the statement, hypotheses, label and page against the print.

Proof pointer

The paper sketches only n(4)=5n(4)=5; it cites Harborth for n(5)=10n(5)=10.

Dependencies

problem_p49 for the convex polygon problem it varies.

Bears on

  • Problem 216: the lecture's n(k)n(k) is the problem's g(k)g(k) with the no-three-on-a-line condition stated explicitly. It reports n(4)=5n(4)=5 and n(5)=10n(5)=10 and leaves the existence of n(6)n(6) and n(7)n(7) open; it proves nothing toward the general question.