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Statement

Notation as on the Theorem page: f(n;r,k)f(n;r,k) is the least integer such that every rr-graph on nn vertices with that many rr-tuples contains kk independent rr-tuples, and g(n;r,k−1)g(n;r,k-1) counts the rr-tuples of an nn-set meeting a fixed set of k−1k-1 of its elements.

Display (9) (p. 95). The paper writes "It is not impossible that"

f(n;r,k)=1+max⁡((rk−1r), g(n;r,k−1)).(9)f(n;r,k)=1+\max\left(\binom{rk-1}{r},\ g(n;r,k-1)\right).\qquad(9)

No range on nn, rr or kk is printed with (9). The paper adds that for r=2r=2 (9) is implied by the Erdős–Gallai bound (1), and for k=2k=2 it is proved by Erdős, Ko and Rado, "but the general case seems elusive" (p. 95). The paper's (3) states the case k=2k=2 for n≥2rn\ge2r and calls n<2rn<2r trivial (p. 93). Each term counts a family with no kk independent rr-tuples: all rr-tuples of rk−1rk-1 of the vertices, the family the paper describes for r=2r=2 on p. 93, and the rr-tuples meeting a fixed set of k−1k-1 vertices, behind the paper's remark f(n;r,k)>g(n;r,k−1)f(n;r,k)>g(n;r,k-1) (p. 93). The paper does not say that its Theorem settles (9) in any range. The Theorem gives f(n;r,k)=1+g(n;r,k−1)f(n;r,k)=1+g(n;r,k-1) for n>crkn>c_rk, and since the first family forces f(n;r,k)≥1+(rk−1r)f(n;r,k)\ge1+\binom{rk-1}r for n≥rk−1n\ge rk-1, this is (9) for n>crkn>c_rk and n≥krn\ge kr (a deduction of this page; see the Theorem page).

Proof pointer

None: the paper poses (9) and does not prove it.

Read depth

Claims checked: (9) and the sentences around it were read on the page image of p. 95. Nothing here is independently reviewed.

Dependencies

None.

Source. P. Erdős, A problem on independent rr-tuples, Ann. Univ. Sci. Budapest. Eötvös Sect. Math. 8 (1965), 93--95; the edition read is named on the source card.

Bears on

  • Problem 1020: the problem's equality is (9) with one subtracted from both sides, since the problem's f(n;r,k)f(n;r,k) counts the most edges with no kk independent ones, and with g(n;r,k−1)=(nr)−(n−k+1r)g(n;r,k-1)=\binom nr-\binom{n-k+1}r. The problem restricts to r≥3r\ge3, and its corrected Statement adds n≥krn\ge kr, a range (9) does not print.