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Statement
Setting (p. 345). Let be a set and a set function assigning to each finite subset of an element . For put
the union over all finite subsets of . A set is independent when is empty. For :
- is the largest number such that for every the set has an independent subset with ;
- is the least number for which some has for every with .
Theorem (Tétel, p. 345, unnumbered). Let and . Then
The English summary (p. 348) states the result as . It defines on every subset of an -element set , with , and as the union of over the subsets of .
Remarks printed with the theorem.
- Improved constant (p. 347, no proof given). The authors say a small change of their method gives for , and that they do not yet see how to determine to within .
- The function (pp. 345 and 347). The authors have only very weak bounds for . They say the theorem easily gives , and that , where is the least number with and is the -fold iterated logarithm. They think both bounds are very far from the truth.
- Reformulation (p. 348). The authors restate the problem of determining as finding the least for which the subsets of at most elements of an -element set can be split into classes so that the subsets of every with meet all classes. They cite their paper On a property of families of sets (the paper's reference [3]) for this reformulation.
Proof pointer
Lower bound (p. 345). A set has at most subsets, so , which gives . For strictness, when , so two 2-element sets have . A set containing both then has .
Upper bound (pp. 346-347). The paper counts functions. It restricts to the -element subsets, which allows functions, and lets be the union of over the -element . Counts (1) and (2) give the number of functions whose misses a given point , for a given -element , in the cases and . Bound (3) sums them over , and (4) sums over all -element sets. Inequality (5) shows the result is fewer than all functions for . So some has for every -element , and then . The last step reduces (5) to . The value of is printed in two forms: on p. 346 it is , and on p. 347 it is , with square brackets for the integer part. (Observation of this page, not of the paper.) Neither printed value fits the theorem. The bound and the final inequality both fit : then is about , and is at most the theorem's upper bound.
Source. P. Erdős and A. Hajnal, Egy kombinatorikus problémáról (On a combinatorial problem), Matematikai Lapok 19 (1968), 345-348; MR 39 #5378. The edition read is identified on the source card.
Read depth. Claims checked: the definitions, the theorem, the English summary and the remarks were read clause by clause on the page images of the print. The proof on pp. 345-347 was followed but not checked line by line. The reading of above is this page's own. Nothing here is independently reviewed.
Dependencies
None in the corpus. The paper cites its references [1] (On the structure of set mappings, 1958) and [2] (On a problem of B. Jónsson, 1965) for the infinite case, and [3] for the reformulation on p. 348.
Bears on
- Problem 624: the theorem places strictly between and for . It neither proves nor refutes that this difference tends to infinity, which the problem asks; see the conjecture on p. 346. The paper requires , while the problem's statement lets be any element of .