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Claim. For every k≥3k\ge 3 there is a linear ordering of R\mathbb{R} with no monotone kk-term arithmetic progression, so the answer is no for every k≥3k\ge 3.

[ABJ11] calls a linear ordering ≺\prec of a set X⊆RX\subseteq\mathbb{R} chaotic when no distinct x,y,z∈Xx,y,z\in X with y=12(x+z)y=\tfrac12(x+z) satisfy x≺y≺zx\prec y\prec z, and proves (Theorem 4.1) that R\mathbb{R} has a chaotic linear ordering. The ordering is built in three steps: the doubling recursion A1=⟨0,−1⟩A_1=\langle 0,-1\rangle, An+1=(2An)(2An+1)A_{n+1}=(2A_n)(2A_n+1) gives a chaotic ordering of Z\mathbb{Z} (Theorem 2.2); König's lemma transfers it to Q\mathbb{Q} (Theorem 3.1); and with a basis of R\mathbb{R} over Q\mathbb{Q}, two reals are compared by the rational ordering at the first basis coordinate where they differ, and a progression a+c=2ba+c=2b holds coordinatewise, so a monotone progression in R\mathbb{R} would give one in Q\mathbb{Q}. A monotone kk-term progression contains a monotone three-term one, so the ordering has none of any length k≥3k\ge 3. The proof uses the axiom of choice through the existence of a basis; the paper asks whether a choice-free construction exists. Remark 1 of the paper adds, without written proof, that for each k≥2k\ge 2 some ordering of R\mathbb{R} has monotone kk-term but no (k+1)(k+1)-term progressions. The library card records the paper.

Acceptance. Refereed: Ardal, H., Brown, T. and Jungić, V., Chaotic orderings of the rationals and reals, Amer. Math. Monthly 118 (2011), no. 10, 921–925 (the December 2011 issue, the date of this page). Reviewed: the site's curator, Thomas Bloom, labels the problem disproved, states the negative answer for every k≥3k\ge 3 and credits it to [ABJ11]. The site's label DISPROVED (LEAN) and the catalog statement Erdos194.erdos_194, marked solved with a formal_proof link, point at a Lean file written with Aristotle and posted by a forum user in the site's discussion thread on 2026-04-15, a formalization of this result linked above; it follows the paper's construction and states its own erdos_194, the existence of a linear ordering of R\mathbb{R} with no strictly increasing or decreasing kk-term progression for every k≥3k\ge 3, in its own vocabulary rather than the catalog's. The file was not built or audited by this corpus, so formalized is not listed.

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