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Printed p. 188: "Denote by k(n)k(n) the largest integer kk so that from nn real numbers a1,…,ana_1,\dots,a_n one can always find kk of them ai1,…,aika_{i_1},\dots,a_{i_k} so that two sums

∑j=1l1aij=∑s=1l2ais(29)\sum_{j=1}^{l_1}a_{i_j}=\sum_{s=1}^{l_2}a_{i_s} \tag{29}

can hold only if l1=l2l_1=l_2. By the same method as we used in the proof of Theorem 2 we can show (30) g(n)≥(n/2)g(n)\ge\sqrt{(n/2)} and

h(n)≥n1/3.(31)h(n)\ge n^{1/3}. \tag{31}

In the proof of (30) IrI_r is the set for which arα(mod1)a_r\alpha\pmod1 is between 1/(2n)1/\sqrt{(2n)} and (2/n)\sqrt{(2/n)}, in the proof of (31) IrI_r is the set for which arα(mod1)a_r\alpha\pmod1 is between 1/n1/3−1/2n2/31/n^{1/3}-1/2n^{2/3} and 1/n1/3+1/2n2/31/n^{1/3}+1/2n^{2/3}. (30) and (31) are probably far from being best possible. It is known that h(n)<c8n5/6h(n)<c_8n^{5/6} [5] and by complicated arguments we can show that g(n)=o(n)g(n)=o(n), very likely g(n)<n1−c9g(n)<n^{1-c_9} for some c9>0c_9>0."

The page defines the function as k(n)k(n) and then writes h(n)h(n) in (31) and after it; the two letters denote the same function. Display (29) is printed with the two sums running over the selected elements, the indices jj and ss as printed. The upper bound c8n5/6c_8n^{5/6} is cited to reference [5] of the paper, Erdős's Hungarian paper of 1962 whose Theorem IV gives A(x)<Cx5/6A(x)<Cx^{5/6} for admissible sequences. The same page adds: "The bound (31) cannot be generalized to measurable sets, since it easily follows from the density theorem of Lebesgue that (29) is satisfied in every set of positive measure." The Additions of the augmented scan (printed p. 190, a later layer) report: "Choi improved (31) to h(n)>en1/3log⁡nh(n)>en^{1/3}\log n (on p. 188, lines 4--6, h(n)h(n)). Strauss [sic] proved h(n)<cnh(n)<c\sqrt n" (the print's ee in Choi's bound, unlike the cc of Straus's, is evidently a misprint for a constant), citing E. Straus, On a problem in combinatorial number theory, J. Math. Sci. 1 (1966), 77--80. Choi's paper is filed as choi_1974_extremal_problem_number_theory (J. Number Theory 6 (1974), 105--111); its estimate (1) on printed p. 105 (PDF p. 1), read clause by clause on the page image at 150 dpi on 2026-09-22, is h(n)≫n1/3(log⁡n)1/3h(n)\gg n^{1/3}(\log n)^{1/3} for sets of nn nonzero integers, cites this paper as [1] for its bound (2) h(n)≫n1/3h(n)\gg n^{1/3}, and is paged on estimate_1; the Additions' exponent 11 on the logarithm is not what Choi's paper prints.

Source. P. Erdős, Extremal problems in number theory, Proc. Sympos. Pure Math. VIII (Theory of Numbers), Amer. Math. Soc. (1965), 181--189, DOI 10.1090/pspum/008/0174539; printed p. 188 (PDF p. 8 of the eleven-page scan read for this page) and the Additions on printed p. 190 (PDF p. 10), read on the page images on 2026-09-18 (the exponents at 300 dpi); the site's key [Er65] for Problem 789.

Read depth. Claims checked: the definition, (29), (31) and the surrounding sentences were read clause by clause on the page image. The proof of (31) is the one-sentence indication quoted above; the upper bound is cited, not proved.

Proof pointer

The sentence quoted above: the rotation argument of Theorem 2 with the interval of length 1/n2/31/n^{2/3} centered at 1/n1/31/n^{1/3} modulo 11, in which a sum of ll points lies near l/n1/3l/n^{1/3} and sums with different numbers of summands cannot coincide; the expected number of ara_r with arα(mod1)a_r\alpha\pmod1 in the interval is n1/3n^{1/3}. Not reconstructed further here.

Dependencies

The method of Theorem 2; reference [5] of the paper for the upper bound.

Bears on

  • Problem 789: the origin of the problem's h(n)h(n) (for reals), the lower bound n1/3n^{1/3} the site quotes as Erdős's, and the 1965 upper bound n5/6n^{5/6} from the Hungarian paper; the Additions' report of Choi's improvement, printed as n1/3log⁡nn^{1/3}\log n although Choi's paper proves (nlog⁡n)1/3(n\log n)^{1/3}, and of Straus's n1/2n^{1/2} is a later layer; Choi's bound is paged as the estimate (1) of choi_1974_extremal_problem_number_theory (printed p. 105, PDF p. 1, page image).