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theorem_i: For 0 < epsilon < 1, every two-coloring of the edges of K_n has a complete subgraph on more than log n / (100 epsilon^{1/2} log 2) vertices whose edge-sign sum exceeds epsilon times its edge count in absolute value, and g(epsilon, n) < 10000 log n / epsilon^2, as printed without a range on n.

theorem_ii: Records the linear lower and n to the three-halves upper bound, preserving its unordered-edge convention and range qualification.

theorem_iii: Some two-coloring of 1..n gives every arithmetic progression of at least 100000 log n / epsilon^2 terms a color sum below epsilon times its length in absolute value: the van der Waerden counterpart of Theorem I's upper bound.


P. Erdős: Ramsey és Van der Waerden tételével kapcsolatos kombinatorikai kérdésekről (On combinatorial questions connected with a theorem of Ramsey and van der Waerden; in Hungarian), Mat. Lapok 14 (1963), 29--37; MR 34 #7409; Zentralblatt 115,10 (Zbl 0115.01004).

In this Hungarian paper Erdős introduces discrepancy versions of the theorems of Ramsey and van der Waerden. Assigning h(i,j) = +1 or -1 to the edges of a complete graph on n vertices, Theorem I (p. 30) bounds g(epsilon,n), for 0 < epsilon < 1 the largest number such that every coloring has a complete subgraph on r >= g(epsilon,n) vertices whose edge sum has absolute value greater than epsilon times its number of edges: log n/(epsilon^{1/2} 100 log 2) < g(epsilon,n) < 10000 log n/epsilon^2, so the order in n is log n. Theorem II (p. 31) treats H(n), the minimum over colorings of the maximum absolute edge sum over all complete subgraphs, and proves n/4 <= H(n) < C_4 n^{3/2}. The upper bounds come from simple probabilistic (counting) arguments. For i-element subsets Erdős says simple probabilistic methods give (6), g(i,epsilon,n) < C_5^{(i)}(epsilon)(log n)^{1/(i-1)}, and omits the proof (p. 31); the printed defining condition of g(i,epsilon,n) reads |H_i| < epsilon binom(r,i), the reverse of Theorem I's condition, and this card does not reconstruct it. On the van der Waerden side the paper records the lower bound (8), A(k) > 2^{k/2}(k-1)^{1/2}, proved by Rado and the author, and Schmidt's improvement A(k) > 2^{k - C_6 (k log k)^{1/2}} (p. 32); Theorem III (p. 32) bounds B(epsilon,n), for 0 <= epsilon <= 1 the largest number such that every two-coloring of [1,n] has an arithmetic progression of l >= B(epsilon,n) terms with color sum of absolute value at least epsilon l, by B(epsilon,n) < 100000 log n/epsilon^2. Theorems I, II and III are printed without a range on n and do not literally cover n = 1, and the lower bound of Theorem I also fails at n = 2 for epsilon <= 1/40000. For Problem 176 the paper states the problem's non-strict condition, and Theorem III, read as on its result page, gives only lower bounds for the problem's N(k,ck); for Problem 1028 it is the source of the two bounds on H(n), whose upper bound of order n^{3/2} was later shown to be of the true order by Erdős and Spencer.

Source: https://users.renyi.hu/~p_erdos/1963-15.pdf.

Read status. Claims checked: Theorems I, II and III, their definitions and the proofs on pp. 33--36 were read on the page images; the binomial tail estimates (18) and (23), which the paper does not detail, were not re-derived, and the result pages record printed slips in the proofs. The statements (6) and (8) were read but are not consumed here.

Bears on. #176: Theorem III uses the problem's non-strict condition with ell = epsilon k; read on the result page as the page's own observation, it gives N(k,ck) > n whenever 0 < c <= 1, n >= 2 and k >= 100000 log n/c^2, a lower bound that settles none of the problem's displayed questions, which ask for upper bounds. #1028: Theorem II bounds the problem's quantity, read with one sign per unordered edge, by n/4 <= H(n) < C_4 n^{3/2}; the order of the upper bound is the one Erdős and Spencer later showed is attained.

Results.

  • Theorem I (p. 30): the two-sided logarithmic bound for g(epsilon,n).
  • Theorem II (p. 31): n/4 <= H(n) < C_4 n^{3/2}, with its range qualification.
  • Theorem III (p. 32): B(epsilon,n) < 100000 log n/epsilon^2.
  • Inequality (6) (p. 31) and the lower bound (8) with Schmidt's improvement (p. 32) are recorded in the digest above and have no page.

Problem 1028 source clarification

Edge signs are defined on printed p.30 / PDF p.2; H(n)H(n) and Theorem II are on printed p.31 / PDF p.3. Each unordered edge is counted once. The theorem displays n/4≤H(n)<C4n3/2n/4\le H(n)<C_4n^{3/2}, with the small-nn qualification in the theorem record. The ordered-pair wording imported on Problem 1028 is different; the normalization record separates the quantities. Problems 176 and 1028 concern different parts of this source, without an asserted implication between the problems.

The copy read for this card is the archive's scan; its original acquisition date is unknown. It carries printed pp. 29--37 as PDF pp. 1--9, the last page holding the Russian title and the English summary. No notice is printed; the hosting archive's site footer speaks for the site, not the paper (https://users.renyi.hu/~p_erdos/, prints "(C) 2005-2007 All rights reserved. All material on this site is for scientifics purposes only."); Matematikai Lapok has no publisher page for the 1963 volume, and no Crossref license is recorded; the term is unstated.

No file of this source is held: no license on record permits its redistribution, and the card cites the edition it names above.