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Problem 494
claims/: The 3 claim pages of Problem 494, one per claimant's result; the problem's standing derives from them.
Statement. If is a finite set and then let
For does the multiset (together with the size of ) uniquely determine the set ?
Statement (corrected). If is a finite set and then let
For does the multiset (together with the size of ) uniquely determine the set , provided is sufficiently large in terms of ?
Notes. The site's wording sets no range for , and as printed the
answer is no for every : for the multiset is empty and for
it is the single sum of , so distinct sets of those sizes share it
(Kruyt's observation, recorded in the site's commentary); for a set
with sum and its negative share , since each -sum of the negative
is minus a -sum of , which is the complementary -sum (Tao's
observation, in the commentary and in Tao's forum comment of 30 August 2025,
which says the case "needs to be ruled out"; Theorem 3 of [SeSt58], p. 850,
shows is the only size above at which a nontrivial transformation
preserves the -fold sums); for the sizes and are reported
as further exceptions (see Formulation). Bloom reads the problem with a size
condition. The commentary records the two failures as remarks on the wording,
says "Presumably some condition like ' sufficiently large' is intended",
and labels the problem PROVED on the theorem of Gordon, Fraenkel and Straus
[GFS62] that "for all , the multiset uniquely determines provided
is sufficiently large", added on 14 October 2025 after msellke's forum
comment of 13 October 2025 supplied the reference. The corrected Statement
adopts that reading in Bloom's words, adding "provided is sufficiently
large in terms of " and changing nothing else. It is the conjecture Gordon,
Fraenkel and Straus attribute to Selfridge and Straus [GFS62, §1, p. 187], that
for one has "for all but a finite number of ", which for
fixed says the same thing. Under the site's wording the answer is no, by the
small sizes above; under Bloom's reading it is yes, by the theorem of Section 4
of [GFS62], with the explicit ranges , other than and ,
and , , from [SeSt58]. The missing range is older than the site:
Erdős's report of the problem ([Er61], item I.33, p. 238) states the
Selfridge--Straus conjecture for with no size condition (and with products
in place of sums; see Formulation), while Selfridge and Straus ask "To what
extent is determined by " ([SeSt58], §1, p. 847) and call
the exceptional pairs "in a certain sense quite rare" (p. 854). Results
on the site's wording are credited here and do not bear on the standing: Kruyt's
failure at , Tao's at , Theorem 3 of [SeSt58], and the Lean
development Erdos494.lean in Boris Alexeev's repository (added 2026-08-16;
Codex and GPT-5.6 Sol as formal authors; file at a pinned
commit),
whose only theorem, card_eq_2k, proves the failure at for every
and whose own section heading reads "The literal problem has a negative answer".
The theorem answers the site's wording, not the corrected
Statement, which asks only about sufficiently large ; it presents itself as
a solution of Problem 494 and so has a
claim page,
which is rejected and does not count toward the standing. The page's standing
judges the corrected Statement.
Formulation. In [Er61] (item I.33, p. 238) Erdős states the problem of Selfridge and Straus with products of of the numbers in place of sums; the site calls this a misstatement and follows the sums of [SeSt58], which Erdős cites. The product form is false: for the sets of sixth roots of unity with exponents and have the same products of three distinct elements (exponent sums modulo in both cases), an example the site credits to Steinerberger. The exceptional sizes for are reported as exactly , , and by [Gu04], whose examples for and are printed as multisets with repeated elements (the one for misprinted as given), so for sets of distinct numbers the two large exceptions rest on the credit to Fomin and Izhboldin (1994) in the formal-conjectures statement file; the exceptional sizes are finite in number for every by [GFS62].
Status. The site labels the problem PROVED and credits Gordon, Fraenkel and Straus with uniqueness for every once is sufficiently large; the corrected Statement is Bloom's reading, so the label describes it. The theorem of Section 4 of [GFS62] (Pacific J. Math. 12 (1962), 187--196, refereed) settles it: for every , all but finitely many sizes admit no two distinct sets with the same multiset . Selfridge and Straus [SeSt58] settle for other than and , for , and every when has a prime factor exceeding . The claim pages are Gordon, Fraenkel and Straus (an accepted full claim, on the refereed publication and the site's credit) and Selfridge and Straus (an accepted partial claim).
Source. erdosproblems.com/494, accessed 2026-09-04. Cite as: T. F. Bloom, Erdős Problem #494, https://www.erdosproblems.com/494.
References.
- [Er61] Erdős, Paul, Some unsolved problems. Magyar Tud. Akad. Mat. Kutató Int. Közl. 6 (1961), 221--254; item I.33, printed p. 238.
- [GFS62] Gordon, B. and Fraenkel, A. S. and Straus, E. G., On the determination of sets by the sets of sums of a certain order. Pacific J. Math. 12 (1962), no. 1, 187--196.
- [Gu04] Guy, Richard K., Unsolved problems in number theory, third edition, Problem Books in Mathematics, Springer (2004), xviii+437 pp.; C5 "Sums determining members of a set", printed pp. 167--168: Moser's question of how far the pair sums determine a set, settled by Selfridge, Straus and others when the cardinality is not a power of two; the sums-of-triples problem settled by Boman and Linusson with exceptions exactly at sizes 3, 6, 27 and 486; and the sums of four distinct elements settled by Ewell. Library home: guy_2004_unsolved_problems_number_theory.
- [SeSt58] Selfridge, J. L. and Straus, E., On the determination of numbers by their sums of a fixed order. Pacific J. Math. 8 (1958), no. 4, 847--856.
Formalization. Statement in
formal-conjectures
at its commit of 2026-09-18: the file states the Selfridge--Straus cases, the
counterexamples at and and the large-size theorem as variants
with sorry bodies, and has no unqualified main statement; the large-size
variant is the corrected Statement. The counterexample variants and the
power-of-two variant point to formal proofs in a fork of the repository
(commit of 2026-03-12), linked on
Selfridge and Straus's claim page
together with Collin Yuanjie Ren's Lean package of 2026-09-16 for the two
positive Selfridge--Straus criteria, which the community database
(teorth/erdosproblems) notes under the problem. The development
src/latest/ErdosProblems/Erdos494.lean
of Boris Alexeev's lean-proofs repository (first added 2026-08-16; formal
authors Codex and GPT-5.6 Sol; informal authors named as Gordon, Fraenkel and
Straus) calls itself a formalization of a solution, but its only theorem,
card_eq_2k, is the formal-conjectures variant that uniqueness fails at
for every . It has
its own claim page,
rejected because it answers the site's wording, not the corrected Statement
(its only theorem is the variant card_eq_2k, the failure at ), and
the Notes credit it. No formalization of the Gordon--Fraenkel--Straus theorem
is known, and this corpus has built none of these developments, so no
formalized evidence is listed.
Progress
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Linked library material
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- gordon_1962_determination_sets_sets_sums_certain_order
- gordon_1962_determination_sets_sets_sums_certain_order / section_5
- gordon_1962_determination_sets_sets_sums_certain_order / theorem_p190
- selfridge_1958_determination_numbers_sums_fixed_order
- selfridge_1958_determination_numbers_sums_fixed_order / corollary_p853
- selfridge_1958_determination_numbers_sums_fixed_order / theorem_1
- selfridge_1958_determination_numbers_sums_fixed_order / theorem_2
- selfridge_1958_determination_numbers_sums_fixed_order / theorem_3
- selfridge_1958_determination_numbers_sums_fixed_order / theorem_4
- selfridge_1958_determination_numbers_sums_fixed_order / theorem_5
- selfridge_1958_determination_numbers_sums_fixed_order / theorem_6
- selfridge_1958_determination_numbers_sums_fixed_order / theorem_7
- erdos_1961_unsolved_problems
- guy_2004_unsolved_problems_number_theory