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Problem 1179
claims/: The 2 claim pages of Problem 1179, one per claimant's result; the problem's standing derives from them.
Statement. Let and let be the minimal such that if is an abelian group of size and is a uniformly random subset of size , and
then, with probability as ,
for all .
Estimate - in particular, is it true that for all
Status. Proved, the site's label (PROVED). The site's commentary gives the trivial lower bound , the Erdős–Rényi bound and the Erdős–Hall bound . The standing is derived from the claim pages: the accepted full claim is the Theorem of Erdős and Hall [ErHa76], on its claim page, accepted on the refereed publication and the site's label; the paper samples the elements with repetition where the problem takes a random -subset, a difference the claim page bridges.
Source. erdosproblems.com/1179, accessed 2026-09-04 and 2026-10-07 (page last edited 26 January 2026; empty discussion thread). Cite as: T. F. Bloom, Erdős Problem #1179, https://www.erdosproblems.com/1179.
References.
- [Er73] Erdős, P., Problems and results on combinatorial number theory. A survey of combinatorial theory (J. N. Srivastava et al., eds.), North-Holland (1973), 117-138; p. 127. Library home: erdos_1973_problems_results_combinatorial_number_theory.
- [ErHa76] Erdős, P. and Hall, R. R., Probabilistic methods in group theory. II. Houston J. Math. 2 (1976), no. 2, 173-180. Library home: erdos_1976_probabilistic_methods_group_theory.
- [ErRe65] Erdős, P. and Rényi, A., Probabilistic methods in group theory. J. Analyse Math. 14 (1965), 127-138. Library home: erdos_1965_probabilistic_methods_group_theory.
Formalization. Statement in formal-conjectures.
Current assessment
Settled by the theorem of Erdős and Hall (1976). The trivial bound and the Theorem of Erdős and Hall [ErHa76] give for every fixed , so the answer is yes. This is an accepted full claim on its claim page: refereed (Houston J. Math.) and credited under the site's PROVED label. The paper samples with repetition; the claim page bridges this to random -subsets. Erdős and Rényi [ErRe65] had proved , an accepted partial claim on its claim page. They conjectured that the factor could not be reduced without structural hypotheses on the group, and the 1976 theorem refutes that conjecture. A Lean development in Boris Alexeev's lean-proofs repository formalizes the result. The formal-conjectures statement file of 2026-09-20 points to it, and both are linked on the claim page; this corpus has not built the development. No forum claim, release item or lead names the problem.
Linked library material
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- erdos_1973_problems_results_combinatorial_number_theory
- erdos_1965_probabilistic_methods_group_theory
- erdos_1965_probabilistic_methods_group_theory / conjecture_p129
- erdos_1965_probabilistic_methods_group_theory / remark_p137
- erdos_1965_probabilistic_methods_group_theory / theorem_1
- erdos_1976_probabilistic_methods_group_theory
- erdos_1976_probabilistic_methods_group_theory / theorem_p174