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Problem 1164

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Statement. Let RnR_n be the maximal integer such that almost every random walk from the origin in Z2\mathbb{Z}^2 visits every x∈Z2x\in\mathbb{Z}^2 with ∥x∥≤Rn\| x\|\leq R_n in at most nn steps.

Is it true that

log⁡Rn≍log⁡n?\log R_n \asymp \sqrt{\log n}?

Statement (corrected). Let RnR_n be the maximal integer such that the random walk from the origin in Z2\mathbb{Z}^2 visits every x∈Z2x\in\mathbb{Z}^2 with ∥x∥≤Rn\| x\|\leq R_n in at most nn steps.

Is it true that, in probability,

log⁡Rn≍log⁡n?\log R_n \asymp \sqrt{\log n}?

Notes. The site's RnR_n is one number for each nn: the largest radius whose disc almost every walk covers by time nn. The change replaces "almost every random walk" by "the random walk", so that RnR_n is the radius covered by each path, and inserts "in probability": for every ε>0\varepsilon>0 there are constants 0<a≤b0<a\le b with P(alog⁡n≤log⁡Rn≤blog⁡n)>1−ε\mathbb P\bigl(a\sqrt{\log n}\le\log R_n\le b\sqrt{\log n}\bigr)>1-\varepsilon for all large nn. The evidence is the poser's own statement of the question, Some of Paul's favorite problems (1999), Problem 6.76 (Erdős, Taylor), printed p. 12, on the source page: it lets ξ(x,n)\xi(x,n) count the visits of the walk to xx up to time nn (printed p. 11) and takes RnR_n to be the largest integer with ξ(x,n)>0\xi(x,n)>0 for each ∥x∥≤Rn\|x\|\le R_n, a quantity of the path with no "almost every". The same item conjectures that "RnR_n is about exp⁡((log⁡n)1/2)\exp((\log n)^{1/2})" and calls Kesten's limit law P{(log⁡Rn)2/log⁡n<x}→1−e−λx\mathbb P\{(\log R_n)^2/\log n<x\}\to1-e^{-\lambda x} the "stronger conjecture"; the site's commentary also calls that law the stronger conjecture. A limit law with that continuous limit implies the two-sided comparison in probability, so the comparison in probability is the reading of ≍\asymp that the law strengthens. Dembo, Peres and Rosen (2007), equation (1.1), reprint p. 1, define RnR_n in the same pathwise way. The defect is the site's: the 1999 statement has no "almost every".

Formulation. The random walk is symmetric nearest-neighbor simple random walk started at the origin, as in every result below; the 1999 statement says only "a random walk on Z2\mathbb Z^2". The closed disc ∥x∥≤Rn\|x\|\le R_n and the open discs of the 2004 paper give the same order and the same limit law, by the library's radius deduction, and small times with Rn=0R_n=0 do not affect a statement about large nn.

The site's commentary prints Kesten's law as e−4xe^{-4x} for the event (log⁡Rn)2/log⁡n≤x(\log R_n)^2/\log n\le x; that expression decreases in xx and cannot be a distribution function. The 1999 statement prints 1−e−λx1-e^{-\lambda x} for the event with <x<x, and the 2007 paper prints e−4ye^{-4y} for the event with ≥y\ge y.

Status. PROVED, the site's label (page last edited 25 January 2026), which describes the corrected Statement: the commentary credits the order as proved independently by Révész [Re90] and Kesten, and the stronger limit law to Dembo, Peres, Rosen and Zeitouni [DPRZ04]. Both results are accepted full claims, Révész's two-sided bound and the limit law with rate 4, and the derived standing is solved, proved. Kesten's independent proof has no publication of his own, the 2004 paper citing it as quoted by Aldous and by Lawler, so it has no claim page and is disclosed on Révész's. An independent Lean proof of the order in probability, in Boris Alexeev's repository, is a pending full claim.

Source. T. F. Bloom, Erdős Problem #1164, accessed 2026-09-05. The corrected Statement follows Some of Paul's favorite problems (1999), Problem 6.76, printed p. 12. The published proof of the stronger limit law is Dembo–Peres–Rosen–Zeitouni (2004), Theorem 1.4.

Formalization. No formal-conjectures statement exists. An independent Lean proof of the two-sided order in probability for the pathwise radius, in Boris Alexeev's lean-proofs repository, is recorded on its claim page; this corpus has not built or audited it.

Current assessment

The corrected Statement is proved. Révész's two-sided bound for the disc cover time, as the 2004 introduction reports it, gives the order of log⁡Rn\log R_n in probability, and Dembo–Peres–Rosen–Zeitouni (2004), Theorem 1.4, gives the stronger limit law with rate 44; both are accepted full claims. The site's wording is corrected in the Notes.

Search scope: the site's problem, discussion and proof-claim pages, the published 2004 theorem, the 2007 primary restatement and Kovač's scan of the original 1999 question. It does not survey every later cover-time result.

The inversion deduction is complete relative to its stated inputs; the multiscale excursion argument of Theorem 1.4 is not reconstructed here.

Known results and proof coverage

Dembo, Peres, Rosen and Zeitouni prove that the time TrT_r required to cover the lattice disc of radius rr satisfies

P(log⁡Tr≤t(log⁡r)2)⟶e−4/t,t>0.\mathbb P\bigl(\log T_r\le t(\log r)^2\bigr)\longrightarrow e^{-4/t}, \qquad t>0.

The exact theorem record follows the published text and identifies the essential proof chain. The complete inversion deduction gives the radius law, including integer rounding, moving thresholds and open versus closed discs. Thus for each η>0\eta>0, suitable constants 0<a<b0<a<b give probability at least 1−η1-\eta asymptotically that alog⁡n≤log⁡max⁡{Rn,1}≤blog⁡na\sqrt{\log n}\le\log\max\{R_n,1\}\le b\sqrt{\log n}. Inverted, Theorem 1.4 says that for every x≥0x\ge0

lim⁡n→∞P ⁣((log⁡max⁡{Rn,1})2log⁡n≤x)=1−e−4x.\lim_{n\to\infty}\mathbb P\!\left( \frac{\bigl(\log\max\{R_n,1\}\bigr)^2}{\log n}\le x\right) =1-e^{-4x}.

The 2007 follow-up, equation (1.1), restates the origin-centered law. It separately proves that allowing the disc's center to vary gives radius n1/4+o(1)n^{1/4+o(1)} almost surely. That movable-center result answers a different question.

References

  • Various contributors, Some of Paul's favorite problems, Budapest conference booklet (July 1999), Problem 6.76, printed p. 12; Kovač's public scan, the canonical source, has the probability section in PDF pp. 7–8.
  • A. Dembo, Y. Peres, J. Rosen and O. Zeitouni, Cover times for Brownian motion and random walks in two dimensions, Annals of Mathematics 160 (2004), 433–464, published record. Source and version record.
  • A. Dembo, Y. Peres and J. Rosen, How large a disc is covered by a random walk in n steps?, Annals of Probability 35 (2007), 577–601; arXiv:math/0503139v3, reprint p. 1, equation (1.1).
  • P. Révész, Random Walk in Random and Non-Random Environments, World Scientific, Teaneck (1990), DOI 10.1142/1107, the site's reference for the asymptotic; its two-sided cover-time bound is recorded, as the 2004 introduction reports it, on its claim page; the monograph's theorem number and constants are not recorded here.

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