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Problem 836

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Statement. Let r≥2r\geq 2 and GG be a rr-uniform hypergraph with chromatic number 33 (that is, there is a 33-colouring of the vertices of GG such that no edge is monochromatic).

Suppose any two edges of GG have a non-empty intersection. Must GG contain O(r2)O(r^2) many vertices? Must there be two edges which meet in ≫r\gg r many vertices?

Statement (corrected). Let r≥2r\geq 2 and GG be a rr-uniform hypergraph with chromatic number 33 (that is, there is a 33-colouring of the vertices of GG such that no edge is monochromatic, but no such 22-colouring), every vertex lying in an edge.

Suppose any two edges of GG have a non-empty intersection. Must GG contain O(r2)O(r^2) many vertices? Must there be two edges which meet in ≫r\gg r many vertices?

Notes. The site's parenthetical gloss says only that χ(G)≤3\chi(G)\leq3; it does not express the preceding exact condition χ(G)=3\chi(G)=3. Taken literally, the gloss makes both questions false: arbitrarily large stars are intersecting and 22-colorable, and every two of their edges meet in exactly one vertex. The site's commentary on Alon's counterexample states that "its chromatic number is 3", and Erdős and Lovász [ErLo75, Theorem 8 p. 613, construction (b) p. 620] work with exact chromatic number 33 and count only points lying in edges. The corrected Statement adds the missing "no such 22-colouring" and the convention that every vertex lies in an edge; if isolated vertices were allowed, adjoining isolates would trivially falsify the first question even under the exact chromatic-number hypothesis.

Status. Open on erdosproblems.com (label OPEN). The site credits a counterexample to the first question to Alon; the same construction gives the lower bound of Erdős and Lovász's Theorem 8, recorded on their claim page.

Source. erdosproblems.com/836, accessed 2026-09-07. Cite as: T. F. Bloom, Erdős Problem #836, https://www.erdosproblems.com/836, accessed 2026-09-07.

References.

  • [ErLo75] Erdős, P. and Lovász, L., [[../library/graph_coloring/erdos_1975_problems_results_3_chromatic_hypergraphs_related/_index|Problems and results on 33-chromatic hypergraphs and some related questions]]. Infinite and Finite Sets (1975), 609–627.
  • [BuGlSu20] Bucić, Matija; Glock, Stefan; and Sudakov, Benny, [[../library/graph_coloring/bucic_2020_intersection_spectrum_3_chromatic_intersecting_hypergraphs/_index|The intersection spectrum of 33-chromatic intersecting hypergraphs]]. Proc. London Math. Soc. 124 (2022), 680–690. The result locators refer to arXiv:2010.00495v2 (26 October 2020), not to the journal version.

Formalization. Statement in formal-conjectures.

Current assessment

Status target and outcomes. For exact χ(G)=3\chi(G)=3, the Erdős–Lovász construction below has exponentially many incident vertices and disproves the O(r2)O(r^2) proposal; this is the lower bound of their Theorem 8 (printed p. 613), recorded on their claim page. The same source proves only the r/log⁡rr/\log r maximum-intersection lower bound below, which it credits to Shelah and the authors jointly. No cited source proves or refutes the requested linear bound, so that second question retains the open status the site reports.

Evidence and search window. Search scope: the site's problem, discussion and proof-claim pages, the Erdős–Lovász paper, and the complete arXiv v2 of Bucić–Glock–Sudakov. The latter work was published in 2022; its journal version is not held, and the locators above follow the arXiv version. The site's 2026 AI-solution discussion links a mutable Overleaf argument. That argument remains dynamic and unreviewed, with no recorded acceptance.

Proof and review coverage. The §3(b) construction, its two complementary edges per partition, vertex count, intersecting property, and chromatic number match printed p. 620. The r/log⁡rr/\log r statement and the distinct spectrum invariant are verified at statement level only. No complete proof reconstruction or final mathematical review is claimed.

Remaining gaps. A source-level resolution of the linear-intersection question remains missing. The site credits the matching construction to Alon; Erdős and Lovász published it in 1975 as their construction (b), which gives the lower bound of their Theorem 8. The linked 2026 AI argument remains an unreviewed lead and does not affect status.

Progress

Erdős and Lovász call an intersecting hypergraph a clique. Their §3(b) construction takes a set SS of size 2r−22r-2. For every unordered equal partition P={S1,S2}P=\{S_1,S_2\} of SS, it introduces a point xPx_P. Its edges are all rr-subsets of SS and, for each PP, both

S1∪{xP}andS2∪{xP}.S_1\cup\{x_P\} \quad\text{and}\quad S_2\cup\{x_P\}.

The source states that this rr-uniform hypergraph is intersecting and has chromatic number 33. It has no isolated points and has

∣V∣=2r−2+12(2r−2r−1)=Θ ⁣(4rr),|V|=2r-2+\frac12\binom{2r-2}{r-1} =\Theta\!\left(\frac{4^r}{\sqrt r}\right),

which disproves the first question; it is the lower bound of their Theorem 8 (printed p. 613, proof p. 621), recorded on their claim page.

For the second question, Erdős and Lovász record an observation they made with Shelah (printed p. 613), proved by the method of their Theorem 7 (pp. 622–623): every 33-chromatic intersecting rr-uniform hypergraph has two edges EE and FF such that

∣E∩F∣≥rlog⁡r.|E\cap F|\geq\frac{r}{\log r}.

Their printed p. 613 explicitly asks whether the lower bound can be strengthened to crc r or even r−cr-c. Printed p. 623 recapitulates the r/log⁡rr/\log r bound in the proof and sharpness discussion. The printed statement does not specify a logarithm base.

Bucić–Glock–Sudakov study the different invariant

I(H)={∣E∩F∣:E,F∈E(H), E≠F}.I(H)=\{|E\cap F|:E,F\in E(H),\ E\ne F\}.

Their Theorem 2 gives

∣I(H)∣=Ω ⁣(rlog⁡r).|I(H)|=\Omega\!\left(\frac{\sqrt r}{\log r}\right).

This counts distinct intersection sizes. It neither bounds the maximum member of I(H)I(H) linearly nor controls the number of vertices, so it settles neither question on this page.

Known Results

  • Erdős–Lovász §3(b): an exact-33-chromatic intersecting construction with 2r−2+12(2r−2r−1)2r-2+\frac12\binom{2r-2}{r-1} incident vertices, disproving the first question.
  • Erdős–Lovász, printed pp. 613 and 623: the lower bound ∣E∩F∣≥r/log⁡r|E\cap F|\geq r/\log r for some pair of edges and the explicit linear-scale questions, with the logarithm base unspecified in the printed statement.
  • Bucić–Glock–Sudakov, Theorem 2: an adjacent lower bound on the number of distinct intersection sizes, not a resolution of the requested maximum-intersection bound.

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