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Statement. Let AA be a finite set and

B={n≥1:a∣n for some a∈A}.B=\{ n \geq 1 : a\mid n\textrm{ for some }a\in A\}.

Is it true that, for every m>n≥max⁡(A)m>n\geq \max(A),

∣B∩[1,m]∣m<2∣B∩[1,n]∣n?\frac{\lvert B\cap [1,m]\rvert }{m}< 2\frac{\lvert B\cap [1,n]\rvert}{n}?

Formulation. The site's wording, accessed 2026-09-18 (page last edited 8 April 2026). BB is the set of positive multiples of elements of AA, and the question compares the density of BB up to mm with twice its density up to nn, for every m>n≥max⁡Am>n\ge\max A. The factor 22 cannot be lowered: for A={a}A=\{a\}, n=2a−1n=2a-1, m=2am=2a the two densities are 1/a1/a and 1/(2a−1)1/(2a-1), with ratio 2−1/a2-1/a (recomputed here). Erdős's printed sources differ among themselves. Item I.27 of the 1961 survey [Er61, p. 236]: "Let a1<a2<⋯≤na_1<a_2<\cdots\le n be any sequence of integers, b1<b2<⋯b_1<b_2<\cdots the integers no one of which is a multiple of any aa. B(x)=∑bi≤x1B(x)=\sum_{b_i\le x}1. Is it true that for every m>nm>n B(m)m<2B(n)n\frac{B(m)}{m}<\frac{2B(n)}{n}? (I.27.1)", with "It is easy to see that in (I.27.1) 22 can not be replaced by any smaller constant, to see this let the aa's consist of a1a_1, n=2a1−1n=2a_1-1, m=2a1m=2a_1." The 1980 survey [Er80, p. 112] has the same non-multiples wording ("the sequence of integers no one of which is the multiple of any of the aa's"), asks (1) for every m≥nm\ge n, and gives the same example. Item 6 of the new problems of the 1966 Hungarian survey [Er66, p. 150] defines b1<⋯b_1<\cdots as "azon számok sorozata, melyek legalább egy aa-nak többszörösei" (the numbers that are multiples of at least one aa), asks (1) B(m)/m<2B(n)/nB(m)/m<2B(n)/n for every m>nm>n with B(x)=∑bi≤x1B(x)=\sum_{b_i\le x}1, gives the same sharpness example, and adds that no ε>0\varepsilon>0 makes B(m)/m>εB(n)/nB(m)/m>\varepsilon B(n)/n hold for every sequence a1<⋯<ak≤na_1<\cdots<a_k\le n and m>nm>n: take the aa's to be the integers between n/2n/2 and nn and m=m(n)m=m(n) large, then B(m)/m<ε/2B(m)/m<\varepsilon/2 for n>n0(ε)n>n_0(\varepsilon) (citing his 1935 note on sequences no one of which divides another). The sharpness example works only for the multiples reading (for non-multiples the ratio is below 11), so Erdős's own example fixes the reading the site uses; the site judges the 1961 wording a probable misprint, a thread comment of 27 August 2026 notes that the 1980 survey repeats it and that Guy's E5 is titled for sequences divisible by at least one of a given set (the title and the multiples wording appear on printed p. 315 of [Gu04]), and the site's author wrote in the thread (30 November 2025) that the statement was corrected to multiples with the non-multiples version kept as a remark. The site's wording, from [Er66], is the problem. The non-multiples reading of [Er61] and [Er80] is a variant with its own answer, no, by the finite examples recorded under the Current assessment. No source states a variant of the question that survives the counterexample: [Er61], [Er66] and [Er80] ask the same doubling question in the two divisibility readings, both answered no, and the forum items recorded under the Current assessment are partial positive results for restricted classes of AA, not a restated question.

Status. The site's label is FALSIFIABLE, which the site explains as an open problem that a finite counterexample could settle; it is recorded here as the site's label, not as the standing. The standing derives from the claim pages. The full claim of 5 September 2026 on the site's proof-claim tab, [[problems/integer_sequences/E0488/claims/2026_09_05_gessel|Gessel's counterexample]], asserts a disproof: the statement is a universal statement over AA, nn and mm, and the claim exhibits a counterexample built on the 257257-smooth integers in (T,256T](T,256T] at a scale T=256kT=256^k with k<4096k<4096 that its pigeonhole argument guarantees but does not name. The site has not reviewed or acted on that claim (its label and the commentary of 8 April 2026 were unchanged on 2026-09-18), its Lean file is neither built nor audited here, and no referee or named expert has examined it, so the claim is claimed and the problem's standing is claimed, disproved. The four partial claims, of 20 March 2026, [[problems/integer_sequences/E0488/claims/2026_03_20_chojecki|Chojecki's note]] for sets with at most three primitive elements, excess at most five or at most nine covered integers up to nn; of 30 April 2026, MalekZ's note for the three-element family {2u,3v,uv}\{2u,3v,uv\}; of 27 August 2026 (submitted to the tab on 28 August), [[problems/integer_sequences/E0488/claims/2026_08_27_ewing|Ewing's candidate proof]] for sets with at most seven primitive elements; and of 5 September 2026 (submitted to the tab on 29 September), [[problems/integer_sequences/E0488/claims/2026_09_05_shoal_rat|the shoal-rat project's proof]] for primitive sets whose covered integers up to nn exceed the members by at most 1515, are positive results for restricted classes consistent with the counterexample and derive nothing. No refereed source proving or disproving the statement was found in the search whose scope the Current assessment records; the positive results in hand are forum items for restricted classes of AA (two-element sets, primitive sets containing 22, sets of primes in the limit m→∞m\to\infty with an unspecified constant), consistent with the counterexample, whose set is neither of those.

Source. erdosproblems.com/488, accessed 2026-09-18: the problem page (FALSIFIABLE; last edited 8 April 2026; source keys [Er61, p. 236], [Er66, p. 150], [Er80, p. 112], with [Gu04] in the commentary), its 31-comment discussion thread (27 November 2025 to 27 August 2026) and its proof-claim tab with a partial claim of 28 August 2026 and a full claim of 5 September 2026; the tab's third entry, a partial claim of 29 September 2026, and the unchanged page (last edited 8 April 2026) as accessed 2026-10-07. Cite as: T. F. Bloom, Erdős Problem #488, https://www.erdosproblems.com/488, accessed 2026-09-18.

References.

  • [Er61] Erdős, P., Some unsolved problems. Magyar Tud. Akad. Mat. Kutató Int. Közl. 6 (1961), 221--254; item I.27, printed p. 236. Library home: erdos_1961_unsolved_problems.
  • [Er66] Erdős, P., Számelméleti megjegyzések V. Extremális problémák a számelméletben II (Remarks on number theory V. Extremal problems in number theory II). Mat. Lapok 17 (1966), 135--155 (Hungarian); new problems, item 6, printed p. 150. Library home: erdos_1966_szamelmeleti_megjegyzesek.
  • [Er80] Erdős, P., A survey of problems in combinatorial number theory. Ann. Discrete Math. 6 (1980), 89--115; display (1) and the example, printed p. 112. Library home: erdos_1980_survey_problems_combinatorial_number_theory.
  • [Gu04] Guy, R. K., Unsolved problems in number theory, 3rd ed. Problem Books in Mathematics, Springer (2004), xviii+437 pp. E5 "Sequence with members divisible by at least one of a given set", printed p. 315: with D(x)D(x) the count of numbers up to xx divisible by at least one aia_i, a1<⋯<ak≤na_1<\cdots<a_k\le n, "Is D(x)/x<2D(n)/nD(x)/x<2D(n)/n for all x>nx>n?", the sharpness example n=2a1−1n=2a_1-1, x=2a1<a2x=2a_1<a_2, and the remark that no ε\varepsilon works in the other direction; no proofs. Library home: guy_2004_unsolved_problems_number_theory.
  • [Er35] Erdős, P., Note on sequences of integers no one of which is divisible by any other. J. London Math. Soc. 10 (1935), 126--128; cited by [Er66] for the reverse-inequality remark, and not a result on the question.

Formalization. Statement only. The file ErdosProblems/488.lean of formal-conjectures, pinned to the commit fetched (then the head of main), declares erdos_488 : answer(sorry) ↔ ∀ (A : Finset ℕ), A.Nonempty → 0 ∉ A → 1 ∉ A → letI B := {n ≥ 1 | ∃ a ∈ A, a ∣ n} ∀ᵉ (n : ℕ) (m > n), A.max ≤ n → ((Finset.Icc 1 m).filter (· ∈ B)).card / (m : ℚ) < 2 * ((Finset.Icc 1 n).filter (· ∈ B)).card / n under category research open, with proof sorry; the hypotheses 0∉A0\notin A and 1∉A1\notin A are the file's additions, with a comment pointing to the collection's pull request 256 for the reasons. The community database (pinned copy of 2026-09-18) records the problem falsifiable (last changed 29 March 2026), the statement formalized since 31 August 2025, formal_status unformalized and no formal proof; the site's indicator reads "Yes". The external artifacts below were not built, audited or kernel-checked here. (a) The counterexample claim's gist at the revision the claim links (5 September 2026, 22:27 UTC; the proof note was added in the revision of 23:27 UTC, which the claim page links, and the evening's last revision is of 23:38 UTC): Erdos488.lean (562 lines; toolchain v4.33.0 with Mathlib pinned to a commit in lakefile.toml) declares finite_counterexample (a nonempty finite AA with 0∉A0\notin A and integers n<mn<m with every a≤na\le n and 2m ∣B∩[1,n]∣<n ∣B∩[1,m]∣2m\,|B\cap[1,n]|<n\,|B\cap[1,m]|), proof (the negation of the plain finite statement) and Erdos488ExactAdapter.refutation : ¬ proposition, where proposition is the collection's right-hand side verbatim; its README says the #print axioms commands report only propext, Classical.choice and Quot.sound, that the scale index k<4096k<4096 is established by finite existence and not enumerated, and that the work was produced with GPT-6 Astra (Codex), the system the tab names, directed by the named submitter. (b) Boris Alexeev's repository plby/lean-proofs, src/v4.24.0/ErdosProblems/Erdos488b.lean (at its head of 2026-09-18), a counterexample to the former, non-multiples statement with A={2,3,5,7,11,13}A=\{2,3,5,7,11,13\}, n=13n=13 and m=200m=200 (its header comment says m=20m=20; the proof uses 200200), found by Aristotle, an automated prover, per its header; the repository's index page describes it as a counterexample to the statement's former wording. (c) The excess-fifteen claim's ExcessFifteenMain.lean at its pinned commit, described on its claim page.

Current assessment

The question (site formulation of 2026-09-18). The statement above; FALSIFIABLE, last edited 8 April 2026; source keys [Er61, p. 236], [Er66, p. 150], [Er80, p. 112]. The FALSIFIABLE label is a body note, not a claim: the site marks the problem as one a finite counterexample could settle, and the pending claim below offers one. The commentary: the constant 22 is best possible, by A={a}A=\{a\}, n=2a−1n=2a-1, m=2am=2a; the problem is E5 of Guy's collection; in [Er61] the problem has a∤na\nmid n in place of a∣na\mid n, which the site takes for a probable misprint because [Er66] states the multiples form; for that alternate problem Cambie observed that AA the primes up to nn and m=2nm=2n give ∣B∩[1,m]∣/m=(π(2n)−π(n)+1)/(2n)∼1/(2log⁡n)|B\cap[1,m]|/m=(\pi(2n)-\pi(n)+1)/(2n)\sim1/(2\log n) against ∣B∩[1,n]∣/n=1/n|B\cap[1,n]|/n=1/n, and further counterexamples by Alexeev and by Aristotle, an automated prover, are in the comments. The thread's 31 comments (27 November 2025 to 27 August 2026): the identification of the typo (Alexeev, 27 November 2025, from the sharpness example; the site's author, 30 November 2025 (two comments), on correcting the statement and keeping the old version as a remark; van Doorn's find of the 1966 Hungarian statement, 30 November 2025); the smallest counterexample to the alternate reading, A={2,3,5,7}A=\{2,3,5,7\}, n=9n=9, m=13m=13 (Alexeev; recomputed here: ∣B∩[1,9]∣=∣{1}∣=1|B\cap[1,9]|=|\{1\}|=1, ∣B∩[1,13]∣=∣{1,11,13}∣=3|B\cap[1,13]|=|\{1,11,13\}|=3, and 3/13>2/93/13>2/9), and Aristotle's A={2,3,5,7,11,13}A=\{2,3,5,7,11,13\}, n=13n=13, m=200m=200 (recomputed: 11 against 4141, and 41/200>2/1341/200>2/13); a typo in the site's own statement, whose definition of BB then read "for all a∈Aa\in A", which a reader pointed out on 31 December 2025, the curator confirmed the same day, and the statement was corrected to "for some a∈Aa\in A"; and the work on the corrected problem listed below. The proof-claim tab: a partial claim of 28 August 2026 (a computer-assisted candidate proof, made with GPT 5.6, through primitive reductions of size seven, in the submitter's repository erdos-488-size-7-candidate, published 27 August 2026), paged as [[problems/integer_sequences/E0488/claims/2026_08_27_ewing|Ewing's candidate proof]]; the full claim of 5 September 2026 described below; and a partial claim submitted 29 September 2026 from a repository published on 5 September under the handle shoal-rat, made with GPT-6 Astra (OpenAI Codex), proving the inequality for primitive sets whose excess, the covered integers up to nn beyond the members, is at most 1515, with a Lean development whose published axiom log reports only the three standard axioms (not built here), paged as [[problems/integer_sequences/E0488/claims/2026_09_05_shoal_rat|the shoal-rat project's proof]].

The origins. [Er61] p. 236, [Er66] p. 150 and [Er80] p. 112 as quoted under Formulation. Only the Hungarian text defines BB as the multiples; both English texts define it as the non-multiples and then give Erdős's sharpness example, which works only for the multiples. [Er66] alone records the reverse observation: no ε>0\varepsilon>0 gives B(m)/m>εB(n)/nB(m)/m>\varepsilon B(n)/n for all sequences and all m>nm>n, because the multiples of the integers in (n/2,n](n/2,n] have small density for large mm (his 1935 note); this is the density-zero theorem for integers with a divisor in (n/2,n](n/2,n] as n→∞n\to\infty, and it shows the doubling inequality cannot be reversed.

What is known for the statement (forum items, leads with provenance). The site's commentary records no theorem. The thread has:

  • Two-element sets (Will Blair, 6 June 2026, found, the comment says, while working with Codex/ChatGPT-style tools): for A={a,b}A=\{a,b\}, 2≤a<b2\le a<b, the inequality holds for all m>n≥bm>n\ge b, with FA(n)≥⌊n/a⌋+1F_A(n)\ge\lfloor n/a\rfloor+1 when a∤ba\nmid b and FA(m)<2m/aF_A(m)<2m/a; the near-sharp examples A={a,a+1}A=\{a,a+1\}, n=2a−1n=2a-1, m=a2m=a^2 have density ratio (2a−1)2/(2a2)→2(2a-1)^2/(2a^2)\to2 from below.
  • Primitive sets containing 22 (MalekZ, 31 March 2026): every element of BB's complement below mm is odd and the odd multiples of a second element bb push F(n)>n/2F(n)>n/2, so 2F(n)/n>1>F(m)/m2F(n)/n>1>F(m)/m; the same comment shows that a reduction to a fixed threshold in Chojecki's note fails for a≥3a\ge3 (at a threshold below max⁡A\max A, so outside the problem's range) and reports computational checks over 25,000 primitive systems with no failure.
  • Sets of primes in the limit (Tao, 6 April 2026): with the three relaxations m→∞m\to\infty, an unspecified constant in place of 22, and AA consisting of primes, lim⁡m→∞∣B∩[1,m]∣/m≪∣B∩[1,n]∣/n\lim_{m\to\infty}|B\cap[1,m]|/m\ll|B\cap[1,n]|/n, by Bonferroni inequalities when ∑p∈A1/p\sum_{p\in A}1/p is small and monotonicity when it is large; Tao remarks that the problem stays hard even with several such relaxations.
  • A ratio bounded away from 11 (Tao, 30 March 2026): AA the primes in (n1/3,n1/2)(n^{1/3},n^{1/2}) and mm very large give densities about 1/31/3 and log⁡(3/2)−12log⁡2(3/2)=0.3232…\log(3/2)-\tfrac12\log^2(3/2)=0.3232\ldots, ratio 1.0311…1.0311\ldots; computational searches reported in reply (30 March 2026) found peak ratios in [1.035,1.373][1.035,1.373] over 6,207 systems.
  • Two dated manuscripts with partial results, each with a claim page. Chojecki's note of 20 March 2026, written, its author's comment says, through a long exchange with GPT-5.4, with the results verified by Aristotle and in Lean (Chojecki's note: primitive reductions of size at most three, excess at most five, at most nine covered integers up to nn, and an explicit large-nn criterion); a reply of the same day reports that a check run with ChatGPT claimed one minor issue. A five-page note of 30 April 2026 by the forum user MalekZ, prepared with 5.5 Pro (MalekZ's note: the three-element family {2u,3v,uv}\{2u,3v,uv\}).
  • A third note, shared from a drive with a computation by MalekZ on 30 March 2026, develops a reduction chain for Conjecture 4.8 of Chojecki's note (a split doubling inequality for a pair of generators against a tail, which would imply the problem) and names the gap that remains. It has no claim page: it asserts no result on the problem's inequality for a class of sets, and the shoal-rat manuscript refutes that conjecture.

The counterexample claim. Submitted 2026-09-05 23:44:58 to the proof-claim tab by Declan Gessel, made with GPT-6 Astra (Codex), the system the tab names, and paged as [[problems/integer_sequences/E0488/claims/2026_09_05_gessel|Gessel's counterexample]]: the summary states that the density of the multiples of a fixed finite set can more than double between two endpoints at or beyond its largest element, takes for the set the integers in (T,256T](T,256T] with all prime factors below 257257, bounds the covered count at the first endpoint above by a counting argument that picks a TT where these numbers grow slowly, bounds the count at a larger endpoint below by constructing many distinct multiples, and states that the proof is formalized and checked in Lean. The notes add that it was machine-checked through Jig, a verification service, and link a proof note and the Lean file described under Formalization. In that file the set is the 257-smooth integers in (T,256T](T,256T], the endpoints are n=256Tn=256T and m=2TQm=2TQ with QQ the product of the odd primes below 257257, and the inequality 3Q<16φ(Q)3Q<16\varphi(Q) is used; that inequality holds (φ(Q)/Q=0.2007…>3/16\varphi(Q)/Q=0.2007\ldots>3/16, recomputed here from the 53 odd primes below 257). The file proves only that some scale index k<4096k<4096 works, by pigeonhole, and names none. The site shows no comment on the claim and no change of label, and no independent review of the file was found; the claim stays an author's proof claim in the sense of the status rules, distinct from community acceptance and from independent review, and nothing on this page speaks to the file's build, axioms or statement fidelity. An explicit witness at k=48k=48 was posted on 6 September 2026, as statement 41 of Jig problem 398, which the service reports kernel-checked.

Search scope. None of the routes below found a refereed proof or disproof of the statement, or a review of the September 2026 claim.

  • The site: problem page, discussion thread and proof-claim tab; formal-conjectures 488.lean at the pinned commit; the community database entry.
  • GitHub API: the claim's gist at the linked revision and at its head (revision list); the repository of the partial claim (record and head commit); plby/lean-proofs (head, directory listings, the Erdos488b index page and file).
  • arXiv API: abs:"least common multiple" AND abs:Erdős and the other queries run for neighboring problems (none on sets of multiples); the API searches titles and abstracts only, so these zeros are weak.
  • The primary sources: [Er61] p. 236, [Er66] p. 150 and [Er80] p. 112.

Not searched: MathSciNet, zbMATH, Google Scholar, X; no query on the multiples-density literature (Besicovitch, Erdős, Tenenbaum) was run beyond the sources above.

Remaining gaps. (1) The statement has no refereed disproof and the site has not accepted the counterexample claim, so the standing is claimed. The site's proof claim itself remains unreviewed and unbuilt here, and the site's label is unchanged; the site's acceptance, a referee's report or a named expert's review would move the claim to accepted and with it the problem to solved, disproved, while a build of its Lean file without a statement audit would add no acceptance evidence. Gessel's file names no scale; Jig's statement 41 reports an explicit witness at k=48k=48. (2) The positive results are forum items and four partial claims with declared AI assistance and no publication. (3) [Er61]'s and [Er80]'s non-multiples wording is Erdős's own and is refuted by the finite examples above; the page follows the site's reading, which Erdős's example and his 1966 text support. (4) Guy's E5 (printed p. 315) states the multiples reading with the same sharpness example and proves nothing.

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