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Problem 812

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Statement. Is it true that

R(n+1)R(n)≥1+c\frac{R(n+1)}{R(n)}\geq 1+c

for some constant c>0c>0, for all large nn? Is it true that

R(n+1)−R(n)≫n2?R(n+1)-R(n) \gg n^2?

Formulation. The site's wording, accessed (the page shows no last-edited date). R(n)=R(n,n)R(n)=R(n,n) is the diagonal Ramsey number, the least NN such that every red-blue coloring of the edges of KNK_N contains a monochromatic KnK_n; the 1989 paper writes r(m,n)r(m,n). The two questions are distinct: the first asks for a multiplicative gap between consecutive diagonal numbers, the second for an additive gap of order n2n^2. Since R(n)≥(2/e+o(1))n2n/2R(n)\ge(\sqrt2/e+o(1))n2^{n/2}, a positive answer to the first gives R(n+1)−R(n)≥cR(n)R(n+1)-R(n)\ge cR(n), which is exponential and implies the second; no converse implication is available. The site's source key is [Er91], a 1991 problem paper that is not held; the closest passages in other papers of Erdős are quoted below.

Status. Open: the site labels the problem OPEN, and the only source results in hand are additive: the Corollary of Burr, Erdős, Faudree and Schelp specializes on the diagonal to R(n+1)−R(n)≥4n−4R(n+1)-R(n)\ge4n-4 for n≥2n\ge2 (the site's commentary prints 4n−84n-8), and with the lower bound for R(3,k)R(3,k) their Theorem 2 gives the two-step bound R(n+2)−R(n)≫n2/log⁡nR(n+2)-R(n)\gg n^2/\log n. Nothing in hand bounds R(n+1)/R(n)R(n+1)/R(n) away from 11, proves R(n+1)−R(n)≫n2R(n+1)-R(n)\gg n^2, or refutes either question, and no source doing so was found in the search whose scope the Current assessment records. This is a bounded negative finding, not a certificate of openness.

Source. erdosproblems.com/812, accessed 2026-09-18: the problem page (OPEN, marked by the site as not resolvable by a finite computation; no last-edited date; source key [Er91]; commentary citing [BEFS89] and Problem 165), its empty discussion thread and its empty proof-claim tab. Cite as: T. F. Bloom, Erdős Problem #812, https://www.erdosproblems.com/812, accessed 2026-09-18.

References.

  • [BEFS89] Burr, S. A., Erdős, P., Faudree, R. J. and Schelp, R. H., On the difference between consecutive Ramsey numbers. Utilitas Math. 35 (1989), 115--118. Theorem 1 and Corollary, p. 115; Theorem 2, p. 116; the remark on growth, p. 117. Library home: burr_1989_difference_between_consecutive_ramsey_numbers.
  • [Er91] Erdős, P., Problems and results in combinatorial analysis and combinatorial number theory. Graph theory, combinatorics, and applications, Vol. 1 (Kalamazoo, MI, 1988), Wiley (1991), 397--406. The site's source key; not held, recorded without an access attempt.
  • [Er88] Erdős, P., Problems and results in combinatorial analysis and graph theory. Discrete Math. 72 (1988), 81--92; displays (5) and (6) on p. 83 and their comment on p. 84. Library home: erdos_1988_problems_results_combinatorial_analysis_graph_theory.
  • [Er81c] Erdős, P., Some new problems and results in graph theory and other branches of combinatorial mathematics. Combinatorics and graph theory (Calcutta, 1980), Lecture Notes in Math. 885 (1981), 9--17; displays (7) and (8) on p. 11. Library home: erdos_1981_new_problems_results_graph_theory_other.
  • [Ki95] Kim, J. H., The Ramsey number R(3,t)R(3,t) has order of magnitude t2/log⁡tt^2/\log t. Random Structures Algorithms 7 (1995), 173--207; the lower bound R(3,t)≫t2/log⁡tR(3,t)\gg t^2/\log t used in the two-step derivation below, compiled on the page of Problem 165. Library home: kim_1995_ramsey_number_has_order_magnitude.
  • [Mo26] Morris, R., Some recent results in Ramsey theory. Proceedings of the International Congress of Mathematicians 2026, Vol. 2, 210--239, DOI 10.1137/25m1833369; arXiv:2601.05221v1 (8 January 2026). Consulted for coverage; it contains nothing on consecutive differences. Library home: morris_2026_recent_results_ramsey_theory.

Formalization. Statement only. The file ErdosProblems/812.lean of formal-conjectures, linked at the head of main on 2026-09-18, declares, with R the local notation for hypergraphRamsey 2, erdos_812.parts.i : answer(sorry) ↔ ∃ c > 0, ∀ᶠ n in atTop, (R (n + 1) : ℝ) / (R n : ℝ) ≥ 1 + c and erdos_812.parts.ii : answer(sorry) ↔ (fun n : ℕ ↦ (R (n + 1) : ℝ) - (R n : ℝ)) ≫ (fun n : ℕ ↦ (n : ℝ) ^ 2), both under category research open, and erdos_812.variants.lower_bound : ∀ n : ℕ, n ≥ 2 → (R (n + 1) : ℤ) - (R n : ℤ) ≥ 4 * (n : ℤ) - 8 under category research solved with a docstring attributing it to [BEFS89]; all three proofs are sorry. The variant encodes the site's figure 4n−84n-8, which is four below the paper's 4n−44n-4 (below), so it is a true but weakened form of the source's statement. The community database, lists the problem as open (entry last updated 31 August 2025), the statement formalized since 8 March 2026, and no formal proof. The corpus has not built these files.

Current assessment

The question (site formulation). The statement above; OPEN, marked as not resolvable by a finite computation; no prize and no last-edited date. The commentary credits Burr, Erdős, Faudree and Schelp [BEFS89] with R(n+1)−R(n)≥4n−8R(n+1)-R(n)\ge4n-8 for every n≥2n\ge2 and notes that the lower bound of Problem 165 gives R(n+2)−R(n)≫n2−o(1)R(n+2)-R(n)\gg n^{2-o(1)}. The discussion thread and the proof-claim tab are empty; the site's indicator records the statement as formalized.

Erdős's own words in other papers. The site's source [Er91] is not held. Two other problem papers state the neighboring questions. The 1981 paper [Er81c] (p. 11) opens with the remark that almost nothing is known about the local growth of r(n,m)r(n,m), states the conjecture made with Burr as its display (7), "r(n+1,n)>(1+c) r(n,n)r(n+1,n)>(1+c)\,r(n,n)", and calls it intractable at the time; it then records as display (8) a lemma that Erdős, Faudree, Rousseau and Schelp had needed, lim⁡n→∞(r(n+1,n)−r(n,n))/n=∞\lim_{n\to\infty}(r(n+1,n)-r(n,n))/n=\infty, which they "could prove (8) without much difficulty" while they could not show that r(n+1,n)−r(n,n)r(n+1,n)-r(n,n) grows faster than any polynomial in nn; and it closes with the expectation that r(n+1,n)/r(n,n)→C1/2r(n+1,n)/r(n,n)\to C^{1/2}, where C=lim⁡n→∞r(n,n)1/nC=\lim_{n\to\infty}r(n,n)^{1/n}. The 1988 paper (p. 83): "Several of us tried to prove simple inequalities between Ramsey numbers. We all failed so far. The main difficulty is perhaps the lack of constructive methods. Here is a sample which shows our ignorance: Is it true that r(n+1,n)−r(n,n)>cn2r(n+1,n)-r(n,n)>cn^2. (5) 'Clearly' (?). lim⁡r(n+1,n)/r(n,n)=C1/2\lim r(n+1,n)/r(n,n)=C^{1/2} where r(n,n)1/n→Cr(n,n)^{1/n}\to C. (6)", and on p. 84: "(6) seems quite hopeless at present." These concern the off-diagonal step from r(n,n)r(n,n) to r(n+1,n)r(n+1,n), the subject of Problem 1030; the page's questions concern the full step from R(n)R(n) to R(n+1)R(n+1). Since R(n+1)−R(n)=(r(n+1,n+1)−r(n+1,n))+(r(n+1,n)−r(n,n))R(n+1)-R(n)=(r(n+1,n+1)-r(n+1,n))+(r(n+1,n)-r(n,n)) with both summands nonnegative, a positive answer to (5) or to (7) would answer the second or the first question here (an observation made here); Erdős's expectation (6) is a heuristic, not a theorem, in both papers.

What the source proves. Theorem 1 (p. 115): r(m,n)≥r(m,n−1)+2m−3r(m,n)\ge r(m,n-1)+2m-3 for m,n≥2m,n\ge2 (its proof needs n≥3n\ge3; the theorem page records the range), by a construction duplicating a red Km−2K_{m-2} of an (m,n−1)(m,n-1)-good coloring; the case m=3m=3 is Graver and Yackel's. The Corollary (p. 115): r(m,n)≥r(m−1,n−1)+2m+2n−8r(m,n)\ge r(m-1,n-1)+2m+2n-8, printed with the misprinted range "m,n≤2m,n\le2"; two applications of Theorem 1 give it for m,n≥3m,n\ge3. Diagonal specialization (an authored one-line derivation made here; the paper prints no diagonal statement): with m=n=N+1m=n=N+1 and N≥2N\ge2 the Corollary reads R(N+1)=r(N+1,N+1)≥r(N,N)+4(N+1)−8=R(N)+4N−4R(N+1)=r(N+1,N+1)\ge r(N,N)+4(N+1)-8=R(N)+4N-4, that is,

R(n+1)−R(n) ≥ 4n−4(n≥2),R(n+1)-R(n)\ \ge\ 4n-4\qquad(n\ge2),

with equality at n=2n=2 (R(3)−R(2)=6−2=4R(3)-R(2)=6-2=4). The site's commentary and the formal-conjectures variant both print 4n−84n-8 for all n≥2n\ge2, four below the paper's figure; a site-versus-source discrepancy recorded here and not a status matter. Theorem 2 (p. 116): r(m,n)≥r(m,n−k)+r(m,k+1)−1r(m,n)\ge r(m,n-k)+r(m,k+1)-1 for 1≤k≤n−21\le k\le n-2, by a blue join of two good colorings (its five-line proof checked in full). The remark on p. 117: "It is clear that Theorem 1 is far short of what must be true. For instance, in view of (1), the value of r(n,n)−r(n−1,n−1)r(n,n)-r(n-1,n-1) must be exponentially large in nn on the average, and it seems almost certain that this difference has an exponential lower bound as well", where (1) is 2⋅n⋅2n/2/e≤r(n,n)≤(2n−2n−1)\sqrt2\cdot n\cdot2^{n/2}/e\le r(n,n)\le\binom{2n-2}{n-1} (p. 115). The first sentence follows from the lower bound in (1), since the increments R(j+1)−R(j)R(j+1)-R(j) for j<nj<n sum to R(n)−R(2)R(n)-R(2); the second is an expectation. An exponential increment would answer the second question here but not by itself the first, which needs an increment of order R(n)R(n) (see "Why the additive bounds do not reach either question" below); the paper proves neither. Theorems 3--5 (pp. 117--118) concern generalized Ramsey numbers and do not bear on the questions.

The two-step bound from R(3,k)R(3,k) (an authored derivation made here). Theorem 2 with k=2k=2 and m=n=N+2m=n=N+2 (admissible for N≥2N\ge2) gives R(N+2)≥r(N+2,N)+r(N+2,3)−1R(N+2)\ge r(N+2,N)+r(N+2,3)-1, and r(N+2,N)≥r(N,N)=R(N)r(N+2,N)\ge r(N,N)=R(N) because Ramsey numbers are monotone in each argument, so R(N+2)−R(N)≥R(3,N+2)−1R(N+2)-R(N)\ge R(3,N+2)-1. Kim's theorem [Ki95] gives R(3,t)≫t2/log⁡tR(3,t)\gg t^2/\log t (Random Structures Algorithms 7 (1995); refereed; the constant has since been raised, see Problem 165), so R(n+2)−R(n)≫n2/log⁡n=n2−o(1)R(n+2)-R(n)\gg n^2/\log n=n^{2-o(1)}, the site's two-step bound. It says nothing about the one-step difference R(n+1)−R(n)R(n+1)-R(n) beyond 4n−44n-4, since the two increments composing it need not be comparable, and nothing about the ratio.

Why the additive bounds do not reach either question. The increment 4n−44n-4 is linear where the second question asks for order n2n^2; and with R(n)≥(2/e+o(1))n2n/2R(n)\ge(\sqrt2/e+o(1))n2^{n/2}, an additive increment of polynomial size changes R(n+1)/R(n)R(n+1)/R(n) by a quantity tending to 00, so the first question needs an increment of order R(n)R(n) itself, which no result in hand gives. The exponential upper bounds on R(n)R(n) (Problem 77) bound neither the ratio nor the difference from either side. The survey [Mo26] (37 pages, arXiv v1) contains no statement about consecutive differences or ratios: of the words "consecutive", "R(n+1)R(n+1)", "R(k+1)R(k+1)" and "difference", its text has one unrelated occurrence, so it is negative evidence about recent work, not a result.

Search scope. None of the routes below found a bound on R(n+1)/R(n)R(n+1)/R(n) away from 11, a bound R(n+1)−R(n)≫n1+δR(n+1)-R(n)\gg n^{1+\delta} for any δ>0\delta>0, a disproof, or a proof claim.

  • The site: problem page, discussion thread and proof-claim tab; formal-conjectures at the pinned commit; the community database; OEIS A059442 (the table of R(n,k)R(n,k), its formula lines and links; no statement on differences).
  • arXiv: the API queries abs:"Ramsey numbers" AND abs:ratio AND abs:diagonal (no records), abs:Ramsey AND abs:consecutive AND abs:difference (six records, none on Ramsey numbers of complete graphs) and abs:"consecutive Ramsey numbers" (no records); the abstract page of 2601.05221 (one version, no journal reference).
  • Publisher records: a Crossref bibliographic query for [BEFS89]'s title (no record for the Utilitas Mathematica article); the Crossref record of [Mo26].
  • The primary sources: [BEFS89] pp. 115--117; [Er88] pp. 83--84 and [Er81c] p. 11; [Mo26] pp. 1--3, and its whole text by word search.

Not searched: MathSciNet, zbMATH, Google Scholar, X. Not held: [Er91] and Chung--Grinstead 1983 (the 1989 paper's references); Graver--Yackel 1968, its other reference, has the library card graver_yackel_1968_graph_theoretic_results_associated_ramsey_theorem.

Remaining gaps. (1) [Er91], the site's source, is not held; the original wording of the two questions is second-hand from the site, and the 1981 and 1988 passages state the off-diagonal step, not the diagonal one. Reopening condition: a copy of the Kalamazoo proceedings paper. (2) The 1989 theorems are compiled as statements with proof pointers (claims checked; Theorem 2's proof checked in full); the diagonal and two-step specializations are authored one-line derivations, named as such above. (3) The commentary's 4n−84n-8 against the paper's 4n−44n-4, also encoded in the formal-conjectures variant, is recorded and not resolved with the site or the collection. (4) Nothing bears on the ratio question in either direction.

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