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Problem 1216
claims/: The 5 claim pages of Problem 1216, one per claimant's result; the problem's standing derives from them.
Statement. A tournament is a complete directed graph. Let be such that every tournament on vertices contains a transitive tournament on vertices (i.e. one such that if then ).
Is it true that ?
Formulation. The site's wording (page last edited 12 April 2026). is the largest such integer, as Erdős and Moser define it ("the largest number such that every oriented graph on vertices in which every pair of distinct vertices is jointed [sic] by a directed edge has at least one subgraph of vertices in which the orientation is transitive", 1964, p. 125); the site omits "largest". The literature also writes for this function, and the inverse function , the least such that every tournament on vertices contains a transitive subtournament on vertices (), is called the directed Ramsey number; exactly when (an elementary remark). The question asks whether Stearns's lower bound is exact for every ; one with a larger value refutes it.
Status. Disproved. Reid and Parker proved in 1970 that every tournament on vertices contains a transitive subtournament on vertices (Theorem 4, printed p. 235; with their -vertex tournament free of , pp. 235--236, this is ), so while , and more generally for (Corollary 2, p. 235), which exceeds for in the range of each . Their paper (J. Combinatorial Theory 9 (1970), 225--238, refereed) is in the publisher's open archive: library home reid_parker_1970_disproof_conjecture_erdos_moser_tournaments, result pages Theorem 4 and Corollary 2. The claim page Reid and Parker 1970 records the theorem, its postings and the acceptance evidence; the later refutations each have their own claim page (listed under Claims below), and the frontmatter standing is derived from them. The paper states the conjecture in the equivalent form "for each positive integer , there exists a with which contains no " (p. 226) and shows it "false for all " (p. 235). The standing rests on Theorem 4; its proof was followed as a reduction to the paper's Theorems 2 and 3 and is not independently checked. The origin's own bounds, , are cited from the origin itself.
Source. erdosproblems.com/1216, accessed 2026-09-18 at 10:39 UTC: the problem page (DISPROVED, with the site's note that it is solved in the negative; last edited 12 April 2026; source key [ErMo64, p. 127]; commentary citing [St59], [RePa70], [Sa94], [Sa98b]), its three-comment discussion thread (12 April 2026) and its empty proof-claim tab. Cite as: T. F. Bloom, Erdős Problem #1216, https://www.erdosproblems.com/1216, accessed 2026-09-18.
References.
- [ErMo64] Erdős, P. and Moser, L., On the representation of directed graphs as unions of orderings. Magyar Tud. Akad. Mat. Kutató Int. Közl. 9 (1964), 125--132; Theorem 1 and the conjecture, printed p. 127; Stearns's argument, p. 126. Library home: erdos_1964_representation_directed_graphs_as_unions_orderings.
- [RePa70] Reid, K. B. and Parker, E. T., Disproof of a conjecture of Erdős and Moser on tournaments. J. Combinatorial Theory 9 (1970), no. 3, 225--238, doi:10.1016/S0021-9800(70)80061-8; Theorem 4 and Corollaries 1--2, printed p. 235; the values of for and the note on , p. 236; Theorem 5, pp. 236--238 (locators to the publisher's open-archive version). Library home: reid_parker_1970_disproof_conjecture_erdos_moser_tournaments
- [Sa94] Sánchez-Flores, A., On tournaments and their largest transitive subtournaments. Graphs Combin. 10 (1994), no. 2--4, 367--376, doi:10.1007/BF02986687; [Sa98b] Sánchez-Flores, A., On tournaments free of large transitive subtournaments. Graphs Combin. 14 (1998), no. 2, 181--200, doi:10.1007/s003730050025 (Crossref records). Neither held; their theorems, in [Sa94] and in [Sa98b], are recorded from their zbMATH reviews (Zbl 0811.05029, Zbl 0918.05058) on their claim pages, and attested in part by [IRW21], [NMH22] and [Na14].
- [St59] Stearns, R., The voting problem. Amer. Math. Monthly 66 (1959), 761--763. Not held; its argument is reproduced in [ErMo64], p. 126, and its theorem attested in [ErRa67], pp. 624--625.
- [ErRa67] Erdős, P. and Rado, R., Partition relations and transitivity domains of binary relations. J. London Math. Soc. 42 (1967), 624--633; pp. 624--625 and Theorem 4 (i), p. 632. Library home: erdos_1967_partition_relations_transitivity_domains_binary_relations.
- [IRW21] Ihringer, F., Rajendraprasad, D. and Weinert, T., New bounds on the Ramsey number . Discrete Math. 344 (2021), 112268; arXiv:1707.09556v3; the survey paragraph on p. 2. Library home: ihringer_2017_new_bounds_ramsey_number_r_i.
- [NMH22] Neiman, D., Mackey, J. and Heule, M. J. H., Tighter bounds on directed Ramsey number . Graphs Combin. 38 (2022), no. 5, Paper No. 156, doi:10.1007/s00373-022-02560-5; arXiv:2011.00683. The locators are to the NSF author manuscript (17 pp.): p. 2 and Section 5. Library home: neiman_2022_tighter_bounds_directed_ramsey_number_r_7.
- [MM25] McCarthy, D. and Monico, C., A Mathon-type construction for digraphs and improved lower bounds for Ramsey numbers. Electron. J. Combin. 32 (2025), no. 2, P2.42, doi:10.37236/13294; arXiv:2408.04067. Theorem 1 (p. 2) and Table 1 (p. 7) of the journal's open-access file. Library home: mccarthy_2025_mathon_type_construction_digraphs_improved_lower_bounds
- [Na14] Nagy, Z. L., Density version of the Ramsey problem and the directed Ramsey problem. arXiv:1401.6823 (v1 27 January 2014; v3 21 January 2016, 17 pp.); Theorem 4.2 and the introduction's survey, cited from the author-hosted revised copy (14 pp., linked from the site's thread; fetched 2026-09-18, 285,814 bytes). The copy thanks a referee. Not held in the library.
- [NeLa94] Neumann-Lara, V., A short proof of a theorem of Reid and Parker on tournaments. Graphs Combin. 10 (1994), 363--366, doi:10.1007/BF02986686 (Crossref record). Not held; by its zbMATH review (Zbl 0811.05028) it gives a shorter proof of Reid and Parker's Corollary 1, recorded on its claim page.
Formalization. None found. No file for this problem exists in
google-deepmind/formal-conjectures (main; the directory
FormalConjectures/ErdosProblems/,
673 entries, was listed in full), and the community database
(teorth/erdosproblems)
records the problem disproved (last updated 21 April 2026), not formalized (4
April 2026), with no formal proof. The site's "Formalised statement?" indicator
reads "No".
Current assessment
The question (site formulation, accessed 2026-09-18). The statement above; DISPROVED, with the site's note that it is solved in the negative; last edited 12 April 2026. The commentary names the inverse of the directed Ramsey number; attributes the lower bound to Stearns [St59], by a greedy argument from a vertex of out-degree at least ; attributes the upper bound and the value to Erdős and Moser [ErMo64]; records that Reid and Parker [RePa70] answered the question in the negative for every by proving there (the phrase "for every " overstates the result: the formula holds again for and for , as the values assembled below show, and fails for infinitely many ); and lists the improvements of Sánchez-Flores, for [Sa94] and for [Sa98b], noting that . The thread (three comments, 12 April 2026): the site's maintainer phrases the Erdős--Moser upper bound probabilistically (a random orientation has no transitive -subtournament when , so for ) and says a standard application of the local lemma should give for large , asking for a citation; a reply the same day, which says the reference was found with GPT-5.4 Thinking, points to Theorem 4.2 of Nagy's paper, noting that Nagy's is this , and the maintainer confirms it is the calculation meant. The proof-claim tab is empty. The community database record of 2026-09-18 says disproved (last updated 21 April 2026) and not formalized.
Origin. Theorem 1 of [ErMo64] (printed p. 127): . Page 126 sketches Stearns's argument for the lower bound (order the vertices by out-degree; the first has out-degree at least ; induct in its out-neighborhood) and gives the counting argument for the upper bound (if every tournament on vertices has a transitive -set then , so ). Page 127 adds "We remark that ", with the quadratic-residue tournament on as the upper-bound witness, and the conjecture: "we have been unable to disprove the conjecture that . In particular we cannot decide if ." Erdős and Rado's 1967 paper (pp. 624--625) attests Stearns's theorem in the form that a relation with exactly one of , , for every pair is transitive on some -set when , "first obtained by R. Stearns [7]. His proof is reproduced in [8; p. 126]", and its Theorem 4 (i) restates it.
The disproof. Theorem 4 of [RePa70] (printed p. 235): "Every contains a ." The proof is a paragraph: a node of outdegree or indegree at least has a in its outset or inset by Stearns's , hence a ; otherwise the score sequence is seven s and seven s, and for a node of outdegree either is not the unique -free (Theorem 2, p. 226), so it contains a , or and Theorem 3 (p. 227: a with a node such that and contains a ) applies to , a in and . Theorem 3 is proved on pp. 227--235 by a case analysis over the outsets in of the three nodes of , using the automorphisms of the quadratic-residue tournament ; it was read for structure and not checked. With , witnessed on pp. 235--236 by the on with arcs for , whose automorphisms () reduce the check to the cyclic triple (the paper's reduction; the arcs with difference in form a second orbit, mapped to , and has only two elements, so no lies above them either), this is . Corollary 2 (p. 235), for , follows from Corollary 1 (every with contains a for , by induction from Theorem 4 with Stearns's doubling step) and is the site's bound . The later sources' attestations agree with it: [IRW21], p. 2, whose is , lists , and, citing the Reid--Parker paper (its [18]), and ; it attributes to Stearns, the improvement for to Reid and Parker, for to Sánchez-Flores and the lower bound to Erdős and Moser; [NMH22], p. 2, lists among the known values without a citation; MM25, p. 7: ", [2], [10], [11]" with [10] the Reid--Parker paper; [Na14], introduction: Erdős and Moser "conjectured that the lower bound of Stearns in fact holds with equality. However this turned out to be false [24]", [24] being the Reid--Parker paper. The site's bound for is for , the paper's Corollary 1, read inversely. None of these later sources reproduces the proof; [NeLa94] gives a shorter proof of Corollary 1 (its zbMATH review), and the label rests on the paper's Theorem 4 as recorded above.
The function as far as it is known (assembled here from the sources named). Through if and only if :
- , , (Stearns's bound is exact here; [NMH22] p. 2, [MM25] p. 7), so for ; in particular as in [ErMo64].
- ([RePa70], Theorem 4 with , pp. 235--236): for , and , the case Erdős and Moser could not decide. The paper prints for (p. 236) and, in a note added after submission, for by the quadratic-residue tournament on the field of order , which "one author verified" (p. 236; no argument is printed).
- : the upper half, , is [RePa70]'s Corollary 2 at (p. 236: "By Corollary 2, and "), equivalently Corollary 1 at , and the lower half, , is the -free of the paper's note (p. 236), stated as verified without a printed argument; [IRW21] p. 2 and [MM25] p. 7 cite the value to Reid--Parker and to Sánchez-Flores 1994 respectively (the latter not held). So for , the upper end from .
- (NMH22, Section 5, computer-assisted: an explicit -vertex -free tournament, and a SAT-based degree case analysis excluding vertices; Graphs Combin. 2022, refereed; the computations were not replayed here): for , where is undecided, and for (the bound for comes from , next item). The manuscript reports 5305 known non-isomorphic -free tournaments on 33 vertices, none extending to 34.
- (MM25, Theorem 1, a computer search over Paley tournaments with a digraph Mathon construction; Electron. J. Combin. 2025, refereed; not replayed): so for . Table 1 of [MM25] gives lower bounds on up to .
General bounds. Lower: the site's for from [Sa98b], which proves (its zbMATH review), and the earlier -form from [Sa94], which proves (its zbMATH review); the site's attribution of the -form to the 1994 paper is right, and [Na14]'s introduction, which attributes to the 1998 paper, is in error on this point. The same doubling step that produces these formulas, (Stearns's recursion, in [Na14]'s words ""), applied to gives for , a slightly better constant (); this one line is written here and is not a source's statement. Upper: ([ErMo64]) and Theorem 4.2 of [Na14], , by the Lovász local lemma on a random tournament (the author-hosted copy, p. 11; the paper's is this ). The factor between the lower and upper bounds is the open question behind the disproved statement; the maintainer's comment compares it with the factor in the lower bound for the diagonal Ramsey numbers. Whether , the asymptotic version of the conjecture, is not decided by any source found ([Na14]'s introduction says the same of the Sánchez-Flores bounds).
Claims. Five claim pages record results that refute the formula, each on its own: Reid and Parker 1970 (, the first disproof), Neumann-Lara 1994 (a shorter proof of Reid and Parker's Corollary 1), Sánchez-Flores 1994 (), Sánchez-Flores 1998 () and Neiman, Mackey and Heule (, computer-assisted). The other credited and cited results have no claim page, because none of them settles the question. Stearns's lower bound [St59] is the half of the formula that holds for every ; the upper bound of [ErMo64] and Theorem 4.2 of [Na14] bound from above and decide no value of the formula; the remark of [ErMo64] confirms the formula at , an instance the disproof does not touch, where Stearns's bound gives and the quadratic-residue tournament on gives , and it is recorded under the function's known values rather than as a claim; and of [MM25] is an upper bound on , so the failures of the formula for come from the lower bounds above.
Search scope. None of the routes below found a copy of [RePa70], a dispute of the disproof, or an improvement of the bounds on or on the asymptotic constant. The paper is in the publisher's open archive.
- The site: problem page, discussion thread and proof-claim tab; the full directory listing of formal-conjectures at the pinned commit (no file for this problem); the community database of 2026-09-18.
- The primary sources: [ErMo64] printed pp. 125--127; [ErRa67] pp. 624--625 and 632; [IRW21] p. 2; [NMH22] pp. 1--3 and 12--13; [MM25] pp. 1--2 and 7; [Na14] pp. 1--2 and 11 of the author-hosted copy.
- arXiv: the API queries
abs:"transitive subtournament" OR abs:"transitive subtournaments"(27 records, scanned by title: the relevant ones are 2011.00683 [NMH22], 2408.04067 [MM25], 2311.02135 (McCarthy and Springfield, transitive subtournaments of -th power Paley digraphs, Graphs Combin. 2024; lower bounds for larger , not read), 1401.6823 [Na14] and 1605.02469 (Momihara and Suda, upper bounds on transitive subtournaments in digraphs, Linear Algebra Appl. 2017; abstract read, a spectral bound, not this function)) andabs:"directed Ramsey number" OR abs:"tournament Ramsey"(four records, the same papers); the API records of 1401.6823, 2011.00683, 2408.04067 and 2311.02135 (versions and dates; no journal reference carried by the first). - Crossref records of [RePa70], [Sa94], [Sa98b], [NeLa94], [NMH22] and [MM25]; two bibliographic queries for [Na14]'s title (no record); the Monthly DOI of [St59] returned a redirect from the Crossref API and was not followed.
- Semantic Scholar: the eleven records citing [NMH22] (SAT-verification papers, feedback vertex sets, [MM25]; none a new bound on ) and the one record citing [MM25] (unrelated).
- The open-access copies: the publisher's open-archive endpoint for [RePa70], which did not serve the file on that date; the NSF repository copy of [NMH22] and the EJC PDF of [MM25]; the author-hosted copy of [Na14] linked in the thread.
Not searched: MathSciNet, zbMATH, Google Scholar, X. Not held: [Sa94], [Sa98b], [St59], [NeLa94], [Na14] (the author-hosted copy is cited), the McKay data page that [NMH22] cites.
Remaining gaps. (1) The disproof rests on the paper: Theorem 4 (p. 235), its proof followed as a reduction to Theorems 2 and 3, and the case analysis of Theorem 3 (pp. 227--235) read for structure only and not checked; [NeLa94]'s shorter proof is recorded from its zbMATH review, and nothing is independently reviewed. (2) The Sánchez-Flores theorems are recorded from their zbMATH reviews and their proofs are not checked; the site's general bounds follow from them by Stearns's doubling step. (3) The computer-assisted bounds on and were not replayed. (4) The exact function is open for and from on, and the asymptotic constant lies between and . (5) [Na14] has no journal record found here; its Theorem 4.2 is cited from an author-hosted copy.
Linked library material
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- erdos_1964_representation_directed_graphs_as_unions_orderings
- erdos_1964_representation_directed_graphs_as_unions_orderings / conjecture_p127
- erdos_1964_representation_directed_graphs_as_unions_orderings / theorem_1
- erdos_1967_partition_relations_transitivity_domains_binary_relations
- ihringer_2017_new_bounds_ramsey_number_r_i
- mccarthy_2025_mathon_type_construction_digraphs_improved_lower_bounds
- mccarthy_2025_mathon_type_construction_digraphs_improved_lower_bounds / corollary_8
- mccarthy_2025_mathon_type_construction_digraphs_improved_lower_bounds / theorem_1
- mccarthy_2025_mathon_type_construction_digraphs_improved_lower_bounds / theorem_7
- neiman_2022_tighter_bounds_directed_ramsey_number_r_7
- neiman_2022_tighter_bounds_directed_ramsey_number_r_7 / section_3
- neiman_2022_tighter_bounds_directed_ramsey_number_r_7 / section_4
- neiman_2022_tighter_bounds_directed_ramsey_number_r_7 / section_5
- reid_parker_1970_disproof_conjecture_erdos_moser_tournaments
- reid_parker_1970_disproof_conjecture_erdos_moser_tournaments / corollary_2
- reid_parker_1970_disproof_conjecture_erdos_moser_tournaments / theorem_4