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Problem 1026
claims/: The 2 claim pages of Problem 1026, one per claimant's result; the problem's standing derives from them.
Statement. Let be a sequence of distinct real numbers. Determine
where the maximum is taken over all monotonic subsequences.
Statement (precise). Let be a sequence of distinct real numbers. Determine the largest constant such that, for all such sequences,
where the maximum is taken over all monotonic subsequences.
Notes. The site's wording is ambiguous, as its commentary says: for one given sequence the maximum is a finite computation, and the wording names neither a normalization nor the extremal quantity to be found. The precise Statement replaces the object of "Determine", the maximum itself, with "the largest constant such that, for all such sequences," that maximum exceeds . The ambiguity is already in Erdős's text: [Er71, item 22], on the card Erdős 1971, asks only to determine over the monotonic subsequences of distinct numbers and calls the question unsettled, and Steele's survey [St95, Section 12] and Problem 3.4 of [TWY16] repeat that form. The inserted words are the site's: its commentary adopts this precise question, posed by Wouter van Doorn in the site's thread on 12 September 2025 after discussion with Desmond Weisenberg and Stijn Cambie, and the site's label SOLVED (LEAN), with the answer , describes it. The commentary states the question for all sequences of reals; the precise Statement keeps the site's distinct reals. The normalization agrees with a weighted question of Erdős that Steele reports in the same section, citing Chung (1980, p. 278): to determine , the least over nonnegative weights with sum of the largest sum of the weights along a monotone subsequence, which Steele expects to satisfy . No result about the wording before it was made precise is recorded.
Formulation. Negative and zero terms can be dropped, so the sequence may be taken positive. A stronger finite form, from the same thread: distinct positive reals with sum have a monotone subsequence of sum at least .
Status. The site labels the problem SOLVED (LEAN): . It credits the lower bound , the stronger finite form, to Tidor, Wang and Yang [TWY16] as its first proof, implicit in Wagner [Wa17], and names the Lean proof of the finite form that the AI system Aristotle produced, posted by Alexeev, together with Chan's second proof from the Erdős–Szekeres theorem; the upper bound is Cambie's construction in the thread.
Source. erdosproblems.com/1026, accessed 2026-09-04. Cite as: T. F. Bloom, Erdős Problem #1026, https://www.erdosproblems.com/1026.
References.
- [Er71] Erdős, P., Some unsolved problems in graph theory and combinatorial analysis. Combinatorial Mathematics and its Applications (Proc. Conf., Oxford, 1969) (1971), 97-109.
- [Ha57] Hanani, Haim, On the number of monotonic subsequences. Bull. Res. Council Israel Sect. F (1957/58), 11-13.
- [St95] Steele, J. Michael, Variations on the monotone subsequence theme of Erdős and Szekeres. (1995), 111-131.
- [TWY16] J. Tidor, V. Wang, and B. Yang, -color avoiding paths, special tournaments, and incidence geometry. arXiv:1608.04153 (2016).
- [Wa17] Wagner, Adam Zsolt, Large subgraphs in rainbow-triangle free colorings. J. Graph Theory (2017), 141-148.
- [BKU24] J. Baek, J. Koizumi and T. Ueoro, A note on the Erdős conjecture about square packing. arXiv:2411.07274 (2024).
Formalization. Statement in formal-conjectures, marked solved there as of its commit of 18 September 2026 and pointing, on its weighted-variant statement, at a third-party Lean proof, linked from Alexeev's claim page, which this corpus has not built.
Current assessment
Erdős's wording asks to determine the largest sum of a monotone subsequence of distinct reals; the precise Statement asks for the largest constant in the normalized bound. The answer is , and more: writing with , the least possible ratio of the largest monotone subsequence sum to the total sum of distinct positive reals is exactly . The history, as the thread and Tao's account of it record: Hanani [Ha57] showed that every sequence of reals is a union of at most monotone subsequences, so ; Cambie's construction of September 2025 gave and the finite conjecture; Aristotle's Lean proof of the finite form, posted by Alexeev on 7 December 2025, and Chan's blow-up proof from the Erdős–Szekeres theorem the same night gave , after which the thread found that Tidor, Wang and Yang had proved the inequality in 2016 (Corollary 3.5 of [TWY16], on the card Tidor, Wang and Yang 2016) with Wagner's paper (Wagner 2017) as implicit prior work; Tao's numerical table, Alexeev's closed form and construction, Wu's reduction to axis-parallel square packing and the theorem of Baek, Koizumi and Ueoro [BKU24] on the axis-parallel case of Problem 106 then gave the exact , with a Lean proof by Aristotle posted on 12 December 2025. The accepted claim is Alexeev's Lean proof: the curator credits the Lean proof of the statement that Aristotle produced and Alexeev posted, which with Cambie's construction gives ; the exact for every , added to the same file on 12 December 2025, is later than the curator's remark and rests on the Lean file and Tao's account alone, as the claim page records. The site's Lean qualification is that file, which the corpus has not built. The lower bound alone is the accepted partial claim Tidor, Wang and Yang's weighted Erdős–Szekeres bound, whose page records its first proof. Cambie's construction and Chan's proof are thread posts and have no pages. Wagner's paper has none: it proves the weighting step only for chromatic numbers over a Gallai partition (its Claim 3.5), not the weighted Erdős–Szekeres bound, which the site calls implicit there. Steele's survey [St95], whose Section 12 reports the question without progress, is on the card Steele 1995. Neither claim is refereed; the acceptance is the curator's. Search scope, 2026-10-06: the site's page (last edited 8 December 2025), its discussion thread (twenty-five comments) and proof-claim tab (no claim), the community database and formal-conjectures.
Linked library material
These entries are derived from explicit links on library pages. They are navigation only and do not by themselves record mathematical progress.
- erdos_1971_unsolved_problems_graph_theory_combinatorial_analysis
- steele_1995_variations_monotone_subsequence_theme_erdos_szekeres
- steele_1995_variations_monotone_subsequence_theme_erdos_szekeres / problem_p128
- tidor_2016_1_color_avoiding_paths_special_tournaments
- tidor_2016_1_color_avoiding_paths_special_tournaments / corollary_3_5
- tidor_2016_1_color_avoiding_paths_special_tournaments / theorem_3_2
- wagner_2017_large_subgraphs_rainbow_triangle_free_colorings
- wagner_2017_large_subgraphs_rainbow_triangle_free_colorings / claim_3_5
- wagner_2017_large_subgraphs_rainbow_triangle_free_colorings / theorem_1_6