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Problem 70

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Statement. Let c\mathfrak{c} be the ordinal of the real numbers, β\beta be any countable ordinal, and 2≤n<ω2\leq n<\omega. Is it true that $\mathfrak{c}\to (\beta, n)_2^3$?

Formulation. The statement's "ordinal of the real numbers" is read as the order type λ\lambda of the real line with its usual order, not as the initial ordinal of the cardinal c\mathfrak c, because that is how the source reads it. Erdős [Er87, Problem 3, p. 223] poses the question as an extension of c→(ω+n,4)23\mathfrak c\to(\omega+n,4)^3_2, which he calls an old result of Rado and himself; that result is Theorem 31 of [ErRa56], proved for the uncountable order types into which neither ω1\omega_1 nor ω1∗\omega_1^* embeds, a hypothesis the real line meets and the initial ordinal of the continuum does not. The site's commentary credits the same relation. The statement in formal-conjectures poses the main question on R\mathbb R with its usual order, after a correction of 2026-09-12, while its variant omega_three uses the initial ordinal of the continuum.

Status. Open. The site's label is OPEN. One accepted partial claim, Erdős and Rado 1956, settles the instances with β<ω2\beta<\omega 2 and n≤4n\le4; the question stays open.

Source. erdosproblems.com/70, accessed 2026-09-04. Cite as: T. F. Bloom, Erdős Problem #70, https://www.erdosproblems.com/70.

References.

  • [Er87] Erdős, P., Some problems on finite and infinite graphs. Logic and combinatorics (Arcata, Calif., 1985), Contemp. Math. 65, Amer. Math. Soc. (1987), 223–228; Problem 3, p. 223. Library home: erdos_1987_problems_finite_infinite_graphs.
  • [ErRa56] Erdős, P. and Rado, R., A partition calculus in set theory. Bull. Amer. Math. Soc. 62 (1956), no. 5, 427–489; Theorem 31, p. 447. Library home: erdos_1956_partition_calculus_set_theory.
  • [Va99] Some of Paul's favorite problems, booklet for the conference "Paul Erdős and his mathematics", Budapest, July 1999; item 7.83, as the site cites it.

Formalization. Statement in formal-conjectures.

Current assessment

The question, in the site's formulation read as the Formulation says, asks whether λ→(β,n)23\lambda\to(\beta,n)^3_2 for every countable ordinal β\beta and every finite n≥2n\ge2, where λ\lambda is the order type of the real line. The site labels the problem OPEN, and its only remark credits Erdős and Rado with c→(ω+n,4)23\mathfrak c\to(\omega+n,4)^3_2 for every finite n≥2n\ge2. That result is Theorem 31, relation (30), of [ErRa56], and it is the accepted partial claim Erdős and Rado 1956, refereed in the Bulletin of the American Mathematical Society; it gives λ→(β,4)23\lambda\to(\beta,4)^3_2 for every β<ω2\beta<\omega 2, and so every instance with β<ω2\beta<\omega 2 and n≤4n\le4. Two families of instances are trivial. For n≤3n\le3 and every countable β\beta, a set of three reals all of whose triples are blue is a single blue triple, so either some triple is blue or every triple is red, and in the second case any set of reals of order type β\beta is red-monochromatic. For β≤ω\beta\le\omega and every nn, Ramsey's theorem applied to the triples of an increasing ω\omega-sequence of reals gives an infinite homogeneous subset, which is either red, of order type ω\omega and so containing a set of order type β\beta, or blue and so containing nn points. The remaining instances are open: β≥ω2\beta\ge\omega 2 with n≥4n\ge4, of which (ω2,4)(\omega 2,4) is the case the formal-conjectures file marks as the first open one beyond Erdős and Rado, and ω<β<ω2\omega<\beta<\omega 2 with n≥5n\ge5; Erdős [Er87] writes that he knows nothing about replacing ω+n\omega+n by a larger countable ordinal or 44 by a larger nn. The formal-conjectures file's variant omega_three, the one variant that carries a formal proof, concerns the initial ordinal of the continuum and the trivial instance (ω,3)(\omega,3), so it gets no claim page; its variant erdos_rado states the accepted result with its proof left as sorry. Proof coverage: none of the proofs is reconstructed in this corpus.

Search scope, 2026-10-07: the site's problem page (last edited 23 January 2026) and its discussion thread (no comments and no proof claims), [Er87], [ErRa56] and the formal-conjectures statement file at the commit linked under Formulation; no wider literature search is recorded.

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