Wiki
Wiki

Research notes on every problem, and a library of the papers behind them. Built from the open erdos repository.

Updated


Statement

Theorem 6.2 (p. 16). For η>0\eta>0 and all positive integers rr and kk there is a constant β=β(r,k,η)>0\beta=\beta(r,k,\eta)>0 such that every coloring of the kk-element subsets of an NN-element set with rr colors has a subset of size s>(log⁡N)βs>(\log N)^\beta more than (1−η)(sk)(1-\eta)\binom sk of whose kk-element subsets have one color.

The paper sets it against a remark of Erdős (p. 16): he would begin to doubt that r3(n,n)r_3(n,n) is doubly exponential in nn if every two-coloring of the triples of an NN-set had a set of size s=c(η)(log⁡N)ϵs=c(\eta)(\log N)^\epsilon with at least (1−η)(s3)(1-\eta)\binom s3 triples of one color. The paper says the theorem gives this when ϵ\epsilon is allowed to decrease with η\eta; here β\beta depends on η\eta.

Consequence stated in the paper (p. 17). For each α>0\alpha>0 and kk there are c,ϵ>0c,\epsilon>0 with F(k)(N,α)>c(log⁡N)ϵF^{(k)}(N,\alpha)>c(\log N)^\epsilon, where F(k)(N,α)F^{(k)}(N,\alpha) is the threshold function defined on p. 16 and recorded, with the paper's wording of its definition, on the Section 6.2 page. The paper states it as what Theorem 6.2 "demonstrates" for α\alpha bounded away from 00 and writes out no further argument.

Source. D. Conlon, J. Fox and B. Sudakov, Hypergraph Ramsey numbers, arXiv:0808.3760v1, Section 6.2: Theorem 6.2 on p. 16, the consequence and Theorem 6.3 on p. 17, the proof of Theorem 6.3 on pp. 17--18 (J. Amer. Math. Soc. 23 (2010), 247--266, not compared). The edition read is identified on the source card.

Read depth. Claims checked: the statements of Theorems 6.2 and 6.3 and the consequence were read clause by clause on the page images. The proof of Theorem 6.3 was read for the outline below; its steps were not checked. The paper deduces Theorem 6.2 from it only through the remark on edge density below.

Proof pointer

The paper deduces Theorem 6.2 from Theorem 6.3 (p. 17): for all positive integers r,k,ℓr,k,\ell there is c=c(r,k,ℓ)c=c(r,k,\ell) with r(Kℓ(k)(n);r)≤ecnℓr(K_\ell^{(k)}(n);r)\le e^{cn^\ell}, where Kℓ(k)(n)K_\ell^{(k)}(n) is the kk-uniform hypergraph on ℓ\ell parts of size nn whose edges are the kk-sets meeting kk different parts, and r(H;r)r(H;r) is the least NN such that every rr-coloring of the kk-sets of an NN-set has a monochromatic copy of HH. The blow-up has ℓn\ell n vertices and at least (1−(k2)/ℓ)(ℓnk)\left(1-\binom k2/\ell\right)\binom{\ell n}k edges (p. 17), so its density tends to 11 as ℓ\ell grows; the paper calls Theorem 6.2 a corollary. The exponent of Theorem 6.3 is printed as cnℓcn^\ell; the proof's first line takes N=ecnℓ−1N=e^{cn^{\ell-1}}. The proof of Theorem 6.3 (pp. 17--18) counts the monochromatic ℓ\ell-sets forced by the rr-color Ramsey number of Kℓ(k)K_\ell^{(k)}, takes a popular color, and applies an extremal lemma for dense ℓ\ell-uniform hypergraphs (cited to Erdős and to Nikiforov, the paper's [8] and [25]) to find a complete ℓ\ell-partite ℓ\ell-uniform hypergraph with parts of size nn in that color.

Dependencies

Theorem 6.3 of the same paper; the counting trick the paper credits to its references [10] and [21]; the extremal lemma of its references [8] and [25].

Bears on

  • Problem 161: the problem asks whether, for fixed kk, the growth of F(k)(N,α)F^{(k)}(N,\alpha) changes continuously as α\alpha runs from 00 to 1/21/2 or jumps. The consequence above gives a lower bound of a power of log⁡N\log N for every fixed α>0\alpha>0 and every kk. It does not decide whether a jump occurs, and the paper states the bound, not an answer.
  • Problem 564: the paper relates the theorem to Erdős's remark above on the growth of r3(n,n)r_3(n,n); the theorem gives no bound on r3(n,n)r_3(n,n).