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Problem 564

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Statement. Let R3(n)R_3(n) be the minimal mm such that if the edges of the 33-uniform hypergraph on mm vertices are 22-coloured then there is a monochromatic copy of the complete 33-uniform hypergraph on nn vertices.

Is there some constant c>0c>0 such that

R3(n)≥22cn?R_3(n) \geq 2^{2^{cn}}?

Formulation. The site's wording as accessed 2026-09-17 (page last edited 18 January 2026). R3(n)R_3(n) is the two-color Ramsey number of the complete 33-uniform hypergraph on nn vertices; in [EHR65] it is g(n,3)=f(n,n,3)g(n,3)=f(n,n,3), the least aa with a→(n,n)3a\to(n,n)^3. The known upper bound has the same double-exponential shape (statement 16.3 of [EHR65] gives R3(n)≤224n−10R_3(n)\le2^{2^{4n-10}} for n≥3n\ge3), so a yes answer would fix R3(n)R_3(n) up to the constant in the top exponent. The site files the problem as a special case of Problem 562, which asks the same question for every uniformity. The wording does not say for which nn the bound must hold. It is read as its source reads it, for n≥3n\ge3 ([EHR65] states its bounds for 2≤r≤b2\le r\le b), which agrees with the eventual reading up to the value of cc; for n=1,2n=1,2 the inequality fails for every c>0c>0, since R3(1)=1R_3(1)=1 and R3(2)=2R_3(2)=2.

Status. Open. No proof, disproof, preprint or proof claim for the exact statement was found in the search whose scope the Current assessment records. The bounds in hand are 2cn2≤R3(n)≤224n−102^{cn^2}\le R_3(n)\le2^{2^{4n-10}}, both stated in [EHR65] with the proofs omitted; the double-exponential lower bound is known with four colors, and a 2025 paper published in 2026 calls closing the two-color gap "a major open problem". This is a bounded negative finding, not a certificate of openness.

Source. erdosproblems.com/564, accessed 2026-09-17: the problem page (labeled OPEN, with the site's note that no finite computation can resolve it; prize offered; last edited 18 January 2026; source keys [EHR65], [Er81], [Er97c]), its empty discussion thread and its empty proof-claim tab. The site cites [EHMR84] in its commentary. Cite as: T. F. Bloom, Erdős Problem #564, https://www.erdosproblems.com/564, accessed 2026-09-17.

References.

  • [EHR65] Erdős, P., Hajnal, A. and Rado, R., Partition relations for cardinal numbers. Acta Math. Acad. Sci. Hungar. 16 (1965), no. 1--2, 93--196, doi:10.1007/BF01886396; Section 16, printed pp. 139--140. Library home: erdos_1965_partition_relations_cardinal_numbers.
  • [EHMR84] Erdős, P., Hajnal, A., Máté, A. and Rado, R., Combinatorial set theory: partition relations for cardinals. Studies in Logic and the Foundations of Mathematics 106, North-Holland (1984), 347 pp. Not held; not consulted.
  • [BHS25] Bradač, D., Hunter, Z. and Sudakov, B., Lower bounds for Ramsey numbers of bounded degree hypergraphs. J. Combin. Theory Ser. B 179 (2026), 250--269, doi:10.1016/j.jctb.2026.04.002; arXiv:2502.20863 (v1 28 February 2025; v3 15 August 2025). Library home: bradac_2025_lower_bounds_ramsey_numbers_bounded_degree.
  • [ErRa52] Erdős, P. and Rado, R., Combinatorial theorems on classifications of subsets of a given set. Proc. London Math. Soc. (3) 2 (1952), 417--439. The source [EHR65] cites for the upper bound 16.3; not held; context.
  • [Er47] Erdős, P., Some remarks on the theory of graphs. Bull. Amer. Math. Soc. 53 (1947), 292--294. The source [EHR65] cites for 16.2 and, "without detailed proof", for the lower bound 16.4; not held; context.
  • [Er81] Erdős, P., On the combinatorial problems which I would most like to see solved. Combinatorica 1 (1981), 25--42. Site source key; Part V, pp. 9--10 of the Rényi archive's re-typeset copy, a problem of Hajnal, Rado and Erdős posed as display (5) on p. 10: "Is it true that (5) log⁡log⁡r(K(3)(n),K(3)(n))>cn\log\log r(K^{(3)}(n),K^{(3)}(n))>cn? In other words, does r(K(3)(n),K(3)(n))r(K^{(3)}(n),K^{(3)}(n)) tend to infinity like a double exponential. This question is fundamental and I offer 500 dollars for a proof or disproof of (5)." Library home: erdos_1981_combinatorial_problems_which_i_would_most.
  • [Er97c] Erdős, P., Some of my favorite problems and results. The mathematics of Paul Erdős, I, Algorithms Combin. 13, Springer (1997), 47--67; display (4.3) and its discussion, printed p. 63. Library home: erdos_1997_some_my_favorite_problems_results; paged at display_4_3.

Formalization. Statement only. The file ErdosProblems/564.lean of formal-conjectures (main) declares erdos_564 : answer(sorry) ↔ ∃ c > (0 : ℝ), ∀ᶠ n : ℕ in atTop, (2 : ℝ) ^ (2 : ℝ) ^ (c * n) ≤ hypergraphRamsey 3 n under category research open, with proof sorry. Its "for all sufficiently large nn" reads the site's question asymptotically; since R3(n)≥3R_3(n)\ge3 for n≥3n\ge3, an eventual bound with constant cc extends to every n≥3n\ge3 with a smaller constant, so the eventual reading and the reading for every n≥3n\ge3 agree up to the value of cc. The community database (teorth/erdosproblems) records the statement as formalized since 7 January 2026 and no formal proof. The corpus has not built or checked the file.

Current assessment

The question (site formulation of 2026-09-17). The statement above; status OPEN; prize offered; last edited 18 January 2026. The commentary files the problem as a special case of Problem 562, attributes it to Erdős, Hajnal and Rado [EHR65] together with their bounds 2cn2<R3(n)<22n2^{cn^2}<R_3(n)<2^{2^n} for some c>0c>0, credits Erdős, Hajnal, Máté and Rado [EHMR84] with a doubly exponential lower bound for the four-color problem, and lists the problem as number 37 of the Ramsey theory section of the graphs problem collection. There are no comments and no proof claims. The community database record says open (last updated 31 August 2025), a prize listed, statement formalized, no formal proof.

Origin and the 1965 bounds. Section 16 of [EHR65] (printed pp. 139--140) treats the finite case. It defines g(b,r)=f(b,b,r)g(b,r)=f(b,b,r), so R3(n)=g(n,3)R_3(n)=g(n,3), and records, with a∗b=aba*b=a^b evaluated from the right: 16.3 (Erdős and Rado [ErRa52]): for 2≤r≤b<ω2\le r\le b<\omega, g(b,r)≤2∗(2r−1)∗(2r−2)∗∗(22)∗(2b−2r+1)g(b,r)\le2*(2^{r-1})*(2^{r-2})**(2^2)*(2b-2r+1), "and hence g(b,r)≤2∗2∗∗2∗(krb)g(b,r)\le2*2**2*(k_rb) (rr 'factors' in all)"; for r=3r=3 this is g(b,3)≤242b−5=224b−10g(b,3)\le2^{4^{2b-5}}=2^{2^{4b-10}}. 16.4 (Erdős): "There is a positive real number cc such that g(b,3)≥2cb2g(b,3)\ge2^{cb^2} for all bb. This is stated, without detailed proof, in [9]", where [9] is [Er47]. Then the conjecture that is this problem: "It is reasonable to conjecture that, in fact, g(b,3)≥22c3bg(b,3)\ge2^{2^{c_3b}} for some absolute real constant c3>0c_3>0 and that, more generally, (1) g(b,r)≥2∗2∗∗2∗(crb)g(b,r)\ge2*2**2*(c_rb) (rr 'factors') for some real positive crc_r which is independent of bb." The same page states the "stepping-up" Lemma 6, g(b,r)≥2∗(cg(b,r−1))g(b,r)\ge2*(cg(b,r-1)) with c≥1/10c\ge1/10, printed "for r>4r>4", deduces from 16.2 that for r≥3r\ge3, g(b,r)≥2∗2∗∗2∗(12cr−3b)g(b,r)\ge2*2**2*(\tfrac12c^{r-3}b) with r−1r-1 "factors", and closes: "This result approaches the conjecture (1) but a big gap still exists in the case r=3r=3 between the conjecture and the established estimate. Since these results are obviously not final we omit the proofs." So the 1965 paper states both bounds the site attributes to it and proves neither in its text, and its two-color lower bound for uniformity rr is a tower of height r−1r-1, one short of the conjectured height rr. The site writes the upper bound as 22n2^{2^{n}}; the page follows the source's 224n−102^{2^{4n-10}}, the same double-exponential shape with a different constant. The site's form is the one Erdős printed in 1997 as display (4.3) of [Er97c] (printed p. 63): "Hajnal, Rado and I proved 2cn2<r3(n,n)<22n2^{cn^2}<r_3(n,n)<2^{2^n}. (4.3) We believe the upper bound is closer to the truth, although Hajnal and I have a result which seems to favor the lower bound", and, after the unbalanced-triples result, "Hajnal proved r3(n,n,n,n)>2c2nr_3(n,n,n,n)>2^{c2^n} which very strongly favors the upper bound in (4.3)", the four-color bound the site attributes to [EHMR84], printed there without proof or reference.

The gap as of 2025. The introduction of [BHS25] (p. 1 of arXiv v3; the paper is published in J. Combin. Theory Ser. B 179 (2026)) records the state of the art for complete hypergraphs: Erdős and Rado showed r(Kn(k);q)≤twk(Oq(n))r(K_n^{(k)};q)\le\mathrm{tw}_k(O_q(n)), "an ingenious construction of Erdős and Hajnal, known as the stepping-up lemma", shows that for k≥3k\ge3, r(Kn(k);2)≥twk−1(Ωk(n2))r(K_n^{(k)};2)\ge\mathrm{tw}_{k-1}(\Omega_k(n^2)) and r(Kn(k);4)≥twk(Ωk(n))r(K_n^{(k)};4)\ge\mathrm{tw}_k(\Omega_k(n)), and "Notably, for at least 4 colors, the lower bound matches the upper bound up to the constant on top of the tower, and it is a major open problem to close the gap for two colors" (remark, p. 1). For k=3k=3 this is exactly 2Ω(n2)≤R3(n)≤22O(n)2^{\Omega(n^2)}\le R_3(n)\le2^{2^{O(n)}} with two colors and 22Ω(n)2^{2^{\Omega(n)}} with four, the four-color bound the site attributes to [EHMR84] (not held). The paper's own result, Theorem 1.2 (p. 2), concerns bounded-degree hypergraphs and four colors and gives no bound for R3(n)R_3(n); its authors write (p. 2): "As it relies on a variant of the stepping-up procedure, our construction requires four colors." So the two-color, r=3r=3 gap named in 1965 was still open in August 2025 by a refereed account.

Adjacent results that are not the problem (leads from the dated search). Conlon, Fox and Sudakov (J. Amer. Math. Soc. 23 (2010); arXiv:0808.3760) give off-diagonal bounds r3(s,n)r_3(s,n) and r3(n,n,n)≥2nclog⁡nr_3(n,n,n)\ge2^{n^{c\log n}} for three colors; their abstract states no two-color diagonal improvement, and the paper is not held. Preprints of 2026 prove double-exponential lower bounds for the off-diagonal 44-uniform numbers r4(5,n)r_4(5,n) (arXiv:2604.23986, 22cn1/72^{2^{cn^{1/7}}}, and arXiv:2605.04105, 22Ω(n1/5)2^{2^{\Omega(n^{1/5})}}), tower-type bounds for rk(k+1,k+1)r_k(k+1,k+1) as kk grows (card), and two-color lower bounds twk−1(ckΔlog⁡log⁡Δ) n\mathrm{tw}_{k-1}(c_k\Delta\log\log\Delta)\,n for bounded-degree hypergraphs (arXiv:2603.24627), a tower of height k−1k-1, consistent with the two-color gap. None concerns R3(n)R_3(n).

Search scope. The status rests on these routes; none found a proof, disproof or proof claim.

  • The site: problem page, discussion thread and proof-claim tab; the community database record; the formal-conjectures file at the pinned commit.
  • The primary sources at the pages stated: [EHR65] printed pp. 93--94, 139--140 and 195--196; [BHS25] pp. 1--2.
  • arXiv: the API record of 2502.20863 (v3 15 August 2025; no journal reference on arXiv); the API metadata searches abs:"hypergraph Ramsey" AND (abs:"3-uniform" OR abs:"three-uniform" OR abs:"triple") (fourteen records), abs:"hypergraph Ramsey" AND abs:"lower bound" (thirteen), abs:"stepping-up" AND abs:Ramsey (seven) and abs:Ramsey AND abs:"3-uniform" AND abs:"diagonal" (four); the abstracts of 0808.3760, 2308.10833, 2603.16069, 2411.13812, 2603.24627, 2604.23986 and 2605.04105.
  • Crossref records of [EHR65], [BHS25] (the journal version) and [EHMR84] (the book); a bibliographic query for [BHS25] found the journal article.
  • Semantic Scholar citation lists of [BHS25] (one record, arXiv:2603.24627) and of Conlon--Fox--Sudakov 2010 (127 records, scanned by title; the 2024--2026 items concern off-diagonal, multicolor, ordered and Erdős--Rogers variants). Its search endpoint answered HTTP 429 and was not used.
  • Two general web searches (nothing beyond the site's own page and the off-diagonal r4(5,n)r_4(5,n) preprints).

Not searched: MathSciNet, Google Scholar, X. Unread: [EHMR84], [ErRa52] and [Er47] on this problem, the journal text of [BHS25], the body of Conlon--Fox--Sudakov 2010. [Er97c] was not among the sources of this search; its display (4.3) is cited from its library page.

Remaining gaps. (1) The proofs of 16.4 and Lemma 6 are omitted in [EHR65] and the source it names for 16.4 gives it "without detailed proof"; no source cited here proves the 2cn22^{cn^2} lower bound, and the four-color double-exponential bound rests on [EHMR84], which is not held, and on the 1997 sentence of [Er97c] attributing it to Hajnal, printed without proof. (2) The range of Lemma 6 is printed "for r>4r>4"; the deduction that follows uses it from r=4r=4 on, so the printed range looks like a misprint for r≥4r\ge4; this is recorded, not corrected. (3) There is no resolving proof to compile; no argument here is rewritten or independently reviewed. (4) The Lean file is a statement, not a proof.

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