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conjecture_p140: The 1965 conjecture that the two-color Ramsey number of the complete three-uniform hypergraph is double exponential, with its general form for every uniformity, the stepping-up lemma and the gap the authors record.

statement_16_3: The tower-type upper bound for the two-color Ramsey number of the complete r-uniform hypergraph on b vertices, as recorded in the 1965 paper.

statement_16_4: The single-exponential lower bound for the two-color Ramsey number of the complete three-uniform hypergraph, recorded in 1965 as stated by Erdős without detailed proof.


P. Erdős, A. Hajnal and R. Rado, Partition relations for cardinal numbers, Acta Math. Acad. Sci. Hungar. 16 (1965), no. 1--2, 93--196; DOI 10.1007/BF01886396; received 23 April 1964, with an addition in proof dated 20 April 1965 (p. 195); MR 34 #2475; Zbl 158.266.

The copy read for this card is a 104-page OCR scan (printed pp. 93--196; PDF page nn is printed page 92+n92+n) whose text layer is badly garbled (the exponent of statement 16.4 extracts as noise). Printed pp. 93--94 (introduction), 139--140 (Section 16) and 195--196 (references) were read on rendered page images at 130 dpi, with 300 dpi crops of pp. 139--140 for the inequality glyphs, and printed pp. 107 (Lemma 2) and 130 (Theorem I) were read on page images at 130 dpi; the rest of the paper is digested from an earlier reading of the introduction. No notice is printed in the scan; the publisher's article page for DOI 10.1007/BF01886396 (read 2026-10-02) exposed only the site footer "© 2026 Springer Nature", which speaks for the site, not the paper, and the Crossref record for the DOI (read 2026-10-02) names Springer as publisher and lists only its text-and-data-mining terms entry (http://www.springer.com/tdm) and no Creative Commons license, every other right reserved.

Read status: claims checked for the statements 16.3 and 16.4, the conjecture on p. 140 and Lemma 6, read clause by clause on the page images; the paper omits the proofs of Section 16 ("Since these results are obviously not final we omit the proofs"), so nothing in that section can be proof-checked from this source. The statement of Theorem I (p. 130) and of Lemma 2 (p. 107) were read clause by clause on the page images; their proofs were not read; the rest of the paper is unread here.

This is the long systematic treatment of the partition relations a -> (b_0, b_1, ...)^r and their polarized and square-bracket variants, generalizing Ramsey's theorem to arbitrary cardinals. The first Main Theorem (Theorem I, section 15.2) gives, for n >= 2 and under the General Continuum Hypothesis (the theorem carries the paper's (*) mark), necessary and sufficient conditions (CA) and (CB) for the relation to hold, with the exceptional cases confined to r >= 3 with cofinality coincidences and to inaccessible cardinals; the second Main Theorem (Theorem II, section 15.11) treats the same relation in the remaining regime. The positive results come from two methods: the ramification method (Lemma 1) and a new canonization method (Lemma 3), which the authors call perhaps their most important new method; the negative relations come from the general constructions of Lemma 5. The introduction (p. 94) identifies the decisive step towards the general theorems as the negative relation 2^{2^{aleph_0}} -/-> (aleph_1, aleph_1)^3, and section 17 proves a negative II-relation connected to the abstract measure problem for inaccessible cardinals; sections 18-20 collect the IV, V and VI relations and a list of open problems. Bearing on Problems 562 and 564, Section 16 states the finite estimates and the conjecture recorded below; the negative relation for r = 3 quoted above is an infinite analog of the r = 3 case that Problem 564 asks about, not evidence for the finite question.

Section 16 (printed pp. 139--140), the finite case. For 2≤n<ω2\le n<\omega, r≥2r\ge2 and finite b0,…,bn−1b_0,\ldots,b_{n-1} the paper writes f(b0,…,bn−1,r)f(b_0,\ldots,b_{n-1},r) for the least aa with a→(bν)ν<nra\to(b_\nu)^r_{\nu<n}, restricts to n=2n=2 and puts f(b,b,r)=g(b,r)f(b,b,r)=g(b,r), so g(n,3)g(n,3) is the R3(n)R_3(n) of Problem 564. With a∗b=aba*b=a^b and a0∗a1∗∗am=a0∗(a1∗∗am)a_0*a_1**a_m=a_0*(a_1**a_m) it records: 16.1 f(b0,b1,2)≤(b0+b1−2b0−1)f(b_0,b_1,2)\le\binom{b_0+b_1-2}{b_0-1} [8]; 16.2 g(b,2)≥2b/2g(b,2)\ge2^{b/2} [9]; 16.3 (Erdős and Rado [3]): if 2≤r≤b<ω2\le r\le b<\omega then g(b,r)≤2∗(2r−1)∗(2r−2)∗∗(22)∗(2b−2r+1)g(b,r)\le2*(2^{r-1})*(2^{r-2})**(2^2)*(2b-2r+1), "and hence g(b,r)≤2∗2∗∗2∗(krb)g(b,r)\le2*2**2*(k_rb) (rr 'factors' in all)"; 16.4 (Erdős): g(b,3)≥2cb2g(b,3)\ge2^{cb^2} for all bb, "stated, without detailed proof, in [9]"; the conjecture g(b,3)≥22c3bg(b,3)\ge2^{2^{c_3b}} and, more generally, (1) g(b,r)≥2∗2∗∗2∗(crb)g(b,r)\ge2*2**2*(c_rb) (rr "factors"); Lemma 6, the "stepping-up" lemma proved by the methods of Section 14: a real c≥1/10c\ge1/10 with g(b,r)≥2∗(cg(b,r−1))g(b,r)\ge2*(cg(b,r-1)), printed "for r>4r>4"; the deduction from 16.2 that for r≥3r\ge3, g(b,r)≥2∗2∗∗2∗(12cr−3b)g(b,r)\ge2*2**2*(\tfrac12c^{r-3}b) (r−1r-1 "factors"); and the closing remark that "a big gap still exists in the case r=3r=3 between the conjecture and the established estimate". The references are [3] Erdős and Rado, Proc. London Math. Soc. (3) 2 (1952), 417--439; [8] Erdős and Szekeres, Compositio Math. 2 (1935), 463--470; [9] Erdős, Bull. Amer. Math. Soc. 53 (1947), 292--294.

Contents

  • Theorem I (First Main Theorem, section 15.2, p. 130; marked (*), so proved under the General Continuum Hypothesis): for n >= 2 and 2 <= r < b_0, b-hat_n <= aleph_beta, conditions (CA) and (CB) are necessary and sufficient for the I-relation aleph_{beta+(r-2)} -> (b_0, b-hat_n)^r, with exceptions only in the case (1) "r >= 3; beta > cf(beta) > cf(beta) ∸ 1 > cr(beta); b_1,, b-hat_n < aleph_0" (clause (i)), or when aleph'_beta, the cofinality of aleph_beta, is inaccessible and greater than aleph_0 (clause (iii)). Condition (1) was read on the page image; it prints r >= 3, not r = 3.
  • Lemma 2 (the stepping-up lemma, section 8.1, p. 107; marked (*), so proved under the General Continuum Hypothesis): for r >= 1, a >= aleph_0 and a -> (b_nu)^r_{nu<m}, the successor satisfies a^+ -> (b_nu + 1)^{r+1}_{nu<m}: a positive relation for infinite cardinals, not the finite negative construction that later authors call the Erdos-Hajnal stepping-up lemma; the finite analog in this paper is Lemma 6 of Section 16, whose proof is omitted.
  • Negative relation (p. 94): 2^{2^{aleph_0}} -/-> (aleph_1, aleph_1)^3, described as the decisive step towards the paper's general theorems, obtained from the general negative constructions of Lemma 5.
  • Lemma 3: the canonization method, a new technique for proving positive partition formulas, which the authors expect to have many further applications; Lemma 1 is the older ramification method.
  • Section 17: a negative II-relation sharper than earlier work, connected to the abstract measure problem for inaccessible cardinals.
  • Polarized relation (p. 94): the second major aim, the polarized partition relation III restricted to type (1); the paper quotes Sierpiński's implicit formula and leaves Problems 10 and 12 open.
  • 16.3 (p. 139): the Erdős--Rado upper estimate for g(b, r); for r = 3, g(b, 3) <= 2^{4^{2b-5}} = 2^{2^{4b-10}}.
  • 16.4 (p. 140): g(b, 3) >= 2^{cb^2} for all b, stated without detailed proof.
  • Conjecture (p. 140): g(b, 3) >= 2^{2^{c_3 b}} and the general form (1); with Lemma 6 and the deduced tower of height r - 1.

Compiled scope

Printed pp. 93--94, 96--97, 107, 130, 139--140 and 195--196 were read on the page images; pp. 95, 98--106, 108--129, 131--138 and 141--194 were not read here. No proof was checked and nothing here is independently reviewed.

Source: https://users.renyi.hu/~p_erdos/1965-14.pdf.

Bears on. #562: for #562, Rr(n)=g(n,r)R_r(n)=g(n,r); Section 16 states both sides of the problem for every r≥3r\ge3: the Erdős--Rado upper bound 16.3, a tower of height rr with top krnk_rn, so log⁡r−1Rr(n)≤krn\log_{r-1}R_r(n)\le k_rn, the conjecture (1) that a tower of height rr is also a lower bound, which is the problem's statement in its 1965 wording, and the deduced lower bound, a tower of height r−1r-1 only, whose (r−1)(r-1)-fold iterated logarithm is of order log⁡n\log n; Lemma 6 is the stepping-up step, proof omitted. #564: for #564, R3(n)=g(n,3)R_3(n)=g(n,3); the paper supplies the question itself (the p. 140 conjecture), the bounds 16.3 and 16.4 with their proofs omitted, and the remark that the r=3r=3 gap is open.

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