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Problem 43

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claims/: The 2 claim pages of Problem 43, one per claimant's result; the problem's standing derives from them.


Statement. If A,B⊂{1,…,N}A,B\subset \{1,\ldots,N\} are two Sidon sets such that (A−A)∩(B−B)={0}(A-A)\cap(B-B)=\{0\} then is it true that

(∣A∣2)+(∣B∣2)≤(f(N)2)+O(1),\binom{\lvert A\rvert}{2}+\binom{\lvert B\rvert}{2}\leq\binom{f(N)}{2}+O(1),

where f(N)f(N) is the maximum possible size of a Sidon set in {1,…,N}\{1,\ldots,N\}? If ∣A∣=∣B∣\lvert A\rvert=\lvert B\rvert then can this bound be improved to

(∣A∣2)+(∣B∣2)≤(1−c+o(1))(f(N)2)\binom{\lvert A\rvert}{2}+\binom{\lvert B\rvert}{2}\leq (1-c+o(1))\binom{f(N)}{2}

for some constant c>0c>0?

Status. DISPROVED (LEAN): both questions are answered no, the second by Barreto's construction of 2025-12-19, formalized 2025-12-21, and the first through the solution of Problem 42; the acceptance and the Lean qualifications are on the claim pages below.

Source. erdosproblems.com/43, accessed 2026-09-04. Cite as: T. F. Bloom, Erdős Problem #43, https://www.erdosproblems.com/43.

References.

  • [Er82f] Erdős, P., Some problems on additive number theory. Annals of Discrete Mathematics 12 (1982), 113-116, DOI 10.1016/S0304-0208(08)73496-0.
  • [Er95] Erdős, Paul, Some of my favourite problems in number theory, combinatorics, and geometry. Resenhas (1995), 165-186.

Formalization. Statement in formal-conjectures, both parts tagged research solved with answer no and without a formal_proof attribute. Two public Lean developments are linked from the claim pages: Barreto's web-editor formalization of the second question (2025-12-21) and Alexeev's lean-proofs formalization of both parts (2026-08-20), which derives the first from the formalization of Problem 42's solution. The corpus built and audited neither.

Current assessment

The site's formulation of 2026-10-07 asks two questions about Sidon sets A,B⊆{1,…,N}A,B\subseteq\{1,\ldots,N\} with (A−A)∩(B−B)={0}(A-A)\cap(B-B)=\{0\}: whether (∣A∣2)+(∣B∣2)\binom{\lvert A\rvert}{2}+\binom{\lvert B\rvert}{2} is at most (f(N)2)+O(1)\binom{f(N)}{2}+O(1), and whether for ∣A∣=∣B∣\lvert A\rvert=\lvert B\rvert it is at most (1−c+o(1))(f(N)2)(1-c+o(1))\binom{f(N)}{2} for some c>0c>0. The second question originally read (1−c)(f(N)2)(1-c)\binom{f(N)}{2}; small counterexamples to that wording posted in 2025-12 (for N=8N=8 and N=24N=24 among others) led the site to the asymptotic form, which the curator noted is what Erdős meant. Both questions are answered no, each on its own claim page. The second fails by Barreto's Bose–Chowla construction on [[problems/additive_bases/E0043/claims/2025_12_19_barreto|Barreto's claim page]], with ∣A∣=∣B∣\lvert A\rvert=\lvert B\rvert and (∣A∣2)+(∣B∣2)≥(1−o(1))(f(N)2)\binom{\lvert A\rvert}{2}+\binom{\lvert B\rvert}{2}\geq(1-o(1))\binom{f(N)}{2} for infinitely many NN. The first fails because the solution of Problem 42 gives, for ∣A∣=f(N)\lvert A\rvert=f(N), a companion BB of any fixed size, as [[problems/additive_bases/E0043/claims/2026_04_27_sandhu|the first question's claim page]] records, crediting the solution of Problem 42 as the site does. The second answer is formalized in Lean 4 in the thread, and Alexeev's later formalization covers both; the corpus has built or reviewed none of this.

Known bounds. Erdős's upper bound (1+o(1))N/2(1+o(1))N/2, equivalent to the asymptotic form of the first bound, is deduced from the Theorem on page 114 of his 1982 paper; Tao's argument in the thread (2025-12-03) gives ∣A∣2+∣B∣2≤(1+o(1))N\lvert A\rvert^2+\lvert B\rvert^2\leq(1+o(1))N, with error O(N3/4)O(N^{3/4}) when the smoothing length is taken near N3/4N^{3/4}, as Theorem 1.1 of Bryan Kim's note of 2026-04-30 in the thread proves; the O(N)O(\sqrt N) error stated in the comment does not follow from it. The curator's reply to that note (2026-04-30), calling the bound an immediate generalization of the Erdős–Turán argument, gives ∑i∣Ai∣2≤N+O(m1/2N3/4)\sum_i\lvert A_i\rvert^2\leq N+O(m^{1/2}N^{3/4}) for mm Sidon sets with pairwise disjoint nonzero differences. No refereed publication of either answer was found as of 2026-10-07 in the site's page and remarks, its thread, Problem 42's thread or the formal-conjectures file.

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