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Problem 813

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Statement. Let h(n)h(n) be minimal such that every graph on nn vertices where every set of 77 vertices contains a triangle (a copy of K3K_3) must contain a clique on at least h(n)h(n) vertices. Estimate h(n)h(n) - in particular, do there exist constants c1,c2>0c_1,c_2>0 such that

n1/3+c1≪h(n)≪n1/2−c2?n^{1/3+c_1}\ll h(n) \ll n^{1/2-c_2}?

Statement (corrected). Let h(n)h(n) be maximal such that every graph on nn vertices where every set of 77 vertices contains a triangle (a copy of K3K_3) must contain a clique on at least h(n)h(n) vertices. Estimate h(n)h(n) - in particular, do there exist constants c1,c2>0c_1,c_2>0 such that

n1/3+c1≪h(n)≪n1/2−c2?n^{1/3+c_1}\ll h(n) \ll n^{1/2-c_2}?

Notes. As the site words it, h(n)h(n) is the least threshold that every such graph meets, and every graph meets the threshold 11 (a single vertex is a clique), so h(n)≤1h(n)\le1 for every n≥1n\ge1 and the first displayed inequality n1/3+c1≪h(n)n^{1/3+c_1}\ll h(n) fails at every nn; the question would then have the trivial answer no. The check is the corpus's own. The change replaces the single word "minimal" with "maximal", so that h(n)h(n) is the largest clique size guaranteed in every such graph, the minimum of the clique number over them. The evidence: Bucić and Sudakov, stating the Erdős--Hajnal question, are "interested in the smallest possible size of α(G)\alpha(G) in an nn-vertex graph satisfying αm(G)≥r\alpha_m(G)\geq r" ([BuSu23], p. 2 of arXiv v3), name that quantity f(n,m,r)f(n,m,r) (p. 5), and report that Erdős and Hajnal "observed that any graph GG on nn vertices with α7(G)≥3\alpha_7(G)\geq 3 must have α(G)≥Ω(n1/3)\alpha(G)\geq\Omega(n^{1/3})" and that some such graph has α(G)≤O(n1/2)\alpha(G)\le O(n^{1/2}) (p. 2); in the complement these are bounds on the largest clique forced, which is h(n)h(n) only with "maximal". The site's own commentary credits Erdős and Hajnal with n1/3≪h(n)≪n1/2n^{1/3}\ll h(n)\ll n^{1/2} and Bucić and Sudakov with h(n)≫n5/12−o(1)h(n)\gg n^{5/12-o(1)}, bounds true only of the corrected form, and keeps the label OPEN, which only the corrected form fits; the word "maximal" is the form the site uses for the neighboring question of Erdős and Hajnal, Problem 804. The poser's own text, Erdős's 1991 paper [Er91], is cited here only through [BuSu23] and the site, so whether the slip is the site's or already in [Er91] is not known. No result about the site's wording is recorded.

Formulation. The site's wording (the page carries no last-edited date), with "minimal" corrected to "maximal" as the Notes state: h(n)h(n) is the largest clique size guaranteed in every nn-vertex graph in which every seven vertices span a triangle, that is, the minimum of the clique number ω(G)\omega(G) over all such graphs GG. This is the quantity the bounds of Erdős and Hajnal and of Bucić and Sudakov concern, and the bounds and the claim page below are recorded for it. Passing to the complement HH of GG, "every seven vertices of GG contain a triangle" becomes "every seven vertices of HH contain an independent set of size 33", written α7(H)≥3\alpha_7(H)\ge3 in [BuSu23], and cliques of GG are independent sets of HH; so h(n)h(n) is the smallest possible independence number of an nn-vertex graph HH with α7(H)≥3\alpha_7(H)\ge3, the quantity f(n,7,3)f(n,7,3) of [BuSu23] (p. 5). The two inequalities are asked up to constant factors. The problem is the (m,r)=(7,3)(m,r)=(7,3) case of the Erdős--Hajnal and Linial--Rabinovich question on local and global independence numbers; the case r=log⁡nr=\log n with m=(log⁡n)2m=(\log n)^2 or m=(log⁡n)3m=(\log n)^3 is Problem 804.

Status. Open, for the corrected Statement; the site labels the problem OPEN. The first inequality is proved: Theorem 1.3 of [BuSu23] (Combinatorica 43 (2023), refereed) gives α(H)≥n5/12−o(1)\alpha(H)\ge n^{5/12-o(1)} for every nn-vertex graph with α7(H)≥3\alpha_7(H)\ge3, so h(n)≥n5/12−o(1)h(n)\ge n^{5/12-o(1)} and any c1<1/12c_1<1/12 works; this is the accepted partial claim on its claim page, whose acceptance evidence is the refereed journal. The second inequality is open: the best upper bound is Erdős and Hajnal's h(n)≪n1/2h(n)\ll n^{1/2}, attested second-hand through [BuSu23] and the site, and Bucić and Sudakov ask whether n1/2−o(1)n^{1/2-o(1)} is the truth (their Question 4.2). No proof, disproof, preprint or proof claim for the second inequality was found in the search whose scope the Current assessment records; this is a bounded negative finding, not a certificate of openness.

Source. erdosproblems.com/813, accessed 2026-09-18: the problem page (labeled OPEN, with the site's note that no finite computation can settle it; no last-edited date; source keys [BuSu23] and [Er91]; an acknowledgment line naming one contributor; OEIS "Possible"; "Formalised statement? No"), its empty discussion thread and its empty proof-claim tab. Cite as: T. F. Bloom, Erdős Problem #813, https://www.erdosproblems.com/813, accessed 2026-09-18.

References.

  • [Er91] Erdős, P., Problems and results in combinatorial analysis and combinatorial number theory. Graph theory, combinatorics, and applications, Vol. 1 (Kalamazoo, MI, 1988), Wiley (1991), 397--406. The origin: the site attributes the problem to Erdős and Hajnal, and [BuSu23] cites this paper as its [12] for the question and for the bounds n1/3n^{1/3} and n1/2n^{1/2}. Its bounds are quoted second-hand below, from [BuSu23] and the site.
  • [BuSu23] Bucić, M. and Sudakov, B., Large independent sets from local considerations. Combinatorica 43 (2023), no. 3, 505--546, doi:10.1007/s00493-023-00023-w (published online 4 May 2023, as its Crossref record gives it; the site's reference text gives "arXiv:2007.03667 (2023)"); arXiv:2007.03667 (v1 7 July 2020; v3 14 January 2023, 34 pp.; the arXiv record lists no journal reference). The abstract, p. 1; Theorem 1.2, Theorem 1.3 and the Erdős--Hajnal sentence, p. 2; the convention on asymptotics, p. 5; Section 2.2, pp. 10--17; Section 4 with Question 4.2 and the table, pp. 24--26 (locators in v3). Library home: bucic_2020_large_independent_sets_local_considerations; paged at theorem_1_3.

Formalization. None. formal-conjectures has no file ErdosProblems/813.lean (none on 2026-09-18 or 2026-10-07); the site's indicator reads "Formalised statement? No" (2026-10-07); and the community database (teorth/erdosproblems, data/problems.yaml, 2026-10-07) records the problem open since 31 August 2025 and unformalized, with no formalized statement and no formal proof.

Current assessment

The question (site formulation). The statement above; OPEN; no last-edited date; source keys [BuSu23], [Er91]. The commentary attributes the problem to Erdős and Hajnal, with their bounds n1/3≪h(n)≪n1/2n^{1/3}\ll h(n)\ll n^{1/2}, and records the lower bound h(n)≫n5/12−o(1)h(n)\gg n^{5/12-o(1)} of Bucić and Sudakov [BuSu23]. The discussion thread and the proof-claim tab are empty. The community database record says open (31 August 2025), unformalized.

The complement (an authored one-line translation). If every seven vertices of an nn-vertex graph GG span a triangle, then in the complement HH every seven vertices span an independent set of size 33, so α7(H)≥3\alpha_7(H)\ge3 in the notation of [BuSu23] (p. 2: αm(H)\alpha_m(H) is the least independence number among the mm-vertex subgraphs of HH), and a clique of GG is an independent set of HH. Hence ω(G)=α(H)\omega(G)=\alpha(H), and every lower bound on α(H)\alpha(H) valid for all nn-vertex graphs with α7(H)≥3\alpha_7(H)\ge3 is a lower bound on h(n)h(n); conversely a graph HH with α7(H)≥3\alpha_7(H)\ge3 and small α(H)\alpha(H) gives an upper bound through its complement. The sources state their results for HH; this page transfers them by this remark and nothing else.

Lower bound (the source, claims checked). Theorem 1.3 of Bucić and Sudakov reads, as printed on p. 2 of arXiv v3: "Any nn-vertex graph GG with α7(G)≥3\alpha_7(G)\ge3 has α(G)≥n5/12−o(1)\alpha(G)\ge n^{5/12-o(1)}." The paper's abstract (p. 1) writes the conclusion as "α(G)≥Ω(n5/12)\alpha(G)\ge\Omega(n^{5/12})", a stronger form than the theorem's n5/12−o(1)n^{5/12-o(1)}; this page and the site follow the theorem. The sentence before it attests the origin: the case was "explicitly proposed by Erdős and Hajnal" (their [12]), who observed that α7(G)≥3\alpha_7(G)\ge3 forces α(G)≥Ω(n1/3)\alpha(G)\ge\Omega(n^{1/3}) and that some such GG has α(G)≤O(n1/2)\alpha(G)\le O(n^{1/2}), and who "conjectured that neither of these bounds is tight"; Theorem 1.3 "confirms their first conjecture". By the complement remark, h(n)≥n5/12−o(1)h(n)\ge n^{5/12-o(1)}, so the first displayed inequality of the site holds for every c1<1/12c_1<1/12 (for large nn, n5/12−o(1)≥n1/3+c1n^{5/12-o(1)}\ge n^{1/3+c_1}). The proof is Section 2.2, on the Erdős--Hajnal (7,3)(7,3) case (pp. 10--17): a graph with α7≥3\alpha_7\ge3 is, up to few vertices, K4K_4-free and H7H_7-free (H7H_7 the blow-up of C5C_5 with parts 1,2,1,1,21,2,1,1,2 and cliques inside the parts, p. 6), and a Ramsey-type argument for H7H_7 against a large independent set gives the exponent; the general Theorem 1.2 (p. 2) already gives Ω(n2/5)\Omega(n^{2/5}) at (7,3)(7,3) (k=4k=4 in its notation), which the paper notes is already enough for the Erdős--Hajnal conjecture (p. 10). Acceptance evidence: Combinatorica is refereed (the Crossref record gives volume 43, issue 3, pages 505--546, online 4 May 2023); the locators are those of arXiv v3. Coverage: claims checked for Theorem 1.3, Theorem 1.2, the p. 2 attestation and Section 4's remarks (pp. 2, 5 and 24--26); the proof is not checked. The result is the accepted partial claim on Bucić and Sudakov's claim page.

Upper bound and the open half. The only upper bound in the sources is Erdős and Hajnal's example with α(H)≤O(n1/2)\alpha(H)\le O(n^{1/2}), attested by the sentence quoted above and by the site; Erdős and Hajnal's paper is cited second-hand. Whether the exponent can be lowered below 1/21/2, the site's second inequality, is exactly Question 4.2 of [BuSu23] (p. 25): "Does any graph with an independent set of size 33 among any 77 vertices have α(G)≥n1/2−o(1)?\alpha(G)\ge n^{1/2-o(1)}?", asked in the opposite direction; the authors say the natural limit of their method is n3/7n^{3/7} and that "breaking 3/73/7 seems to require new ideas" (p. 25), and their Lemma 3.6 makes the question "in some sense equivalent to a Ramsey problem" for H7H_7 against an independent set (p. 25). Their table of the state of the art (p. 26) lists, for the range containing (7,3)(7,3), the lower bound Ω(n1/(k−3/2))\Omega(n^{1/(k-3/2)}) with k=⌈m/(r−1)⌉=4k=\lceil m/(r-1)\rceil=4 and the general upper bounds from their Turán-type 22-density problem; for (7,3)(7,3) itself the n1/2n^{1/2} example of Erdős and Hajnal remains the bound cited. So the bounds map is

n5/12−o(1)≤h(n)≪n1/2,n^{5/12-o(1)}\le h(n)\ll n^{1/2},

with 5/12≈0.41675/12\approx0.4167, and the question whether the upper exponent is 1/21/2 is open.

Search scope. None of the routes below found an upper bound below n1/2n^{1/2}, a lower bound above n5/12−o(1)n^{5/12-o(1)}, or a proof claim.

  • The site: problem page, discussion thread and proof-claim tab; the formal-conjectures directory listing (no file 813); the community database record.
  • arXiv API: the record of 2007.03667 (v1 7 July 2020, v3 14 January 2023, no journal reference); the search abs:"independent set of size 3" OR abs:"local independence number" OR (abs:local AND abs:"independence number" AND abs:Hajnal) (eight records: [BuSu23] and seven unrelated papers). The API searches titles and abstracts only, so this zero is weak.
  • Crossref: a bibliographic query for [BuSu23]'s title (top record the Combinatorica article above).
  • Semantic Scholar: the citation lists of [BuSu23] by arXiv identifier and by DOI (five records: a 2025 Erdős--Rogers paper, a 2026 preprint on covering with large cliques and independent sets whose abstract concerns the Feige--Pauzner function n(k1,k2)n(k_1,k_2), a paper on small subgraphs with large average degree, one on the stability of the independence number and a network paper; none bears on h(n)h(n)).
  • [BuSu23], at the depth stated above.

Not searched: MathSciNet, zbMATH, Google Scholar, X. Not examined: [Er91]; the journal version of [BuSu23].

Remaining gaps. (1) [Er91] is cited second-hand: the attribution and the bounds n1/3≪h(n)≪n1/2n^{1/3}\ll h(n)\ll n^{1/2} rest on the site and on the attestation in [BuSu23]; reopening condition: a copy read at the passage. (2) Proof coverage is statements only: Theorem 1.3 is paged at claims-checked depth, and the proof is not checked. (3) The locators for [BuSu23] are those of arXiv v3, not compared with the journal version. (4) The exponent lies in [5/12,1/2][5/12,1/2] and nothing found narrows it.

Known results

  • Bucić--Sudakov, Theorem 1.3 (2023, refereed): α(H)≥n5/12−o(1)\alpha(H)\ge n^{5/12-o(1)} whenever α7(H)≥3\alpha_7(H)\ge3; by complementation h(n)≥n5/12−o(1)h(n)\ge n^{5/12-o(1)}, the first inequality of the problem with any c1<1/12c_1<1/12.
  • Bucić--Sudakov, Theorem 1.2 (p. 2 of the same paper): the general bound α(H)≥Ω(n1/(k−3/2))\alpha(H)\ge\Omega(n^{1/(k-3/2)}) for αm(H)≥r\alpha_m(H)\ge r with k=⌈m/(r−1)⌉k=\lceil m/(r-1)\rceil and m≤(k−12)(r−1)m\le(k-\tfrac12)(r-1), which gives Ω(n2/5)\Omega(n^{2/5}) at (7,3)(7,3).
  • Erdős--Hajnal (1991, second-hand through [BuSu23] p. 2 and the site): n1/3≪h(n)≪n1/2n^{1/3}\ll h(n)\ll n^{1/2}; the upper bound is the best known.

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