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Problem 1009
claims/: The 1 claim page of Problem 1009, one per claimant's result; the problem's standing derives from them.
Statement. Is it true that, for every , there exists such that every graph on vertices with at least edges, where , contains at least many edge disjoint triangles?
Formulation. The site's wording as of 2026-09-18 (page last edited 31 October 2025). The question is for fixed and all and all integers with ; may depend on only. It is Erdős's question of 1971 with for his (item 3: "to every there is an so that every , contains at least edge disjoint triangles"). Erdős's own theorem is the case with , and Sauer's example, which Erdős reports on the same page, shows that fails for : in the site's normalization a graph on vertices with edges and only edge-disjoint triangles, so . The literature writes for the Turán number and for the largest number of edge-disjoint triangles.
Status. Proved. The site credits Győri [Gy88] with the proof and adds, as its reading of the paper, that and that no loss occurs () when is odd and , or when is even and ; the no-loss sentence is a statement for large in terms of (the Current assessment records the small cases that refute it as an all- statement). Győri's paper (Combinatorics (Eger, 1987), Colloq. Math. Soc. János Bolyai 52, North-Holland (1988), 267--276) is print-only and not held. Its theorem is attested in a refereed later paper, Blumenthal, Lidický, Pehova, Pfender, Pikhurko and Volec (Combin. Probab. Comput. 30 (2021), 271--287), whose p. 8 (arXiv version) quotes "the result of Győri [12, Theorem 1] that a graph with vertices and edges, where and , has at least edge-disjoint triangles" and whose Section 5 states the exact no-loss ranges for large , and, for the same ranges, in the refereed paper of Balogh and Wigal (arXiv:2502.16683v2, p. 10). With the loss is for all large , which is the site's (an authored conversion below). The label rests on Erdős's question, the site's acceptance and the refereed quotation; the text of the theorem, its constants and its range of are not available, which the Remaining gaps below record. The claim page Győri 1988 records the result, its attestations, the acceptance evidence and the Lean development of 2026 that declares itself a formalization of the result; the standing in the frontmatter is derived from it.
Source. erdosproblems.com/1009, accessed 2026-09-18: the problem page (PROVED, which the site glosses as an affirmative resolution; last edited 31 October 2025; source keys [Er71, p. 98] and [Gy88]; an additional-thanks line naming Stijn Cambie), its two-comment discussion thread (21 and 29 October 2025) and its empty proof-claim tab. Cite as: T. F. Bloom, Erdős Problem #1009, https://www.erdosproblems.com/1009, accessed 2026-09-18.
References.
- [Gy88] Győri, E., On the number of edge-disjoint triangles in graphs of given size. Combinatorics (Eger, 1987), Colloq. Math. Soc. János Bolyai 52, North-Holland, Amsterdam (1988), 267--276; Zbl 0706.05029 (the zbMATH record identifies the volume and carries a review). Not held: a print-only proceedings volume with no online route. Quoted second-hand from [BLPPPV21] and [BaWi25].
- [Er71] Erdős, P., Some unsolved problems in graph theory and combinatorial analysis. Combinatorial Mathematics and its Applications (Proc. Conf., Oxford, 1969), Academic Press (1971), 97--109; item 3, p. 98. Library home: erdos_1971_unsolved_problems_graph_theory_combinatorial_analysis; the passage is paged at item_3.
- [Er62d] Erdős, P., On a theorem of Rademacher--Turán. Illinois J. Math. 6 (1962), 122--127; Erdős's reference [5] in item 3, the source of the Erdős--Gallai theorem his proof uses. Library home: erdos_1962_theorem_rademacher_turan (not consumed on this page).
- [BLPPPV21] Blumenthal, A., Lidický, B., Pehova, Y., Pfender, F., Pikhurko, O. and Volec, J., Sharp bounds for decomposing graphs into edges and triangles. Combin. Probab. Comput. 30 (2021), no. 2, 271--287, doi:10.1017/S0963548320000358; arXiv:1909.11371v3 (11 June 2020), the open copy used (its p. 8, the proof of Lemma 11, and its Section 5, the related results); the library's card is blumenthal_2021_sharp_bounds_decomposing_graphs_edges_triangles.
- [BaWi25] Balogh, J. and Wigal, M. C., Packing edge disjoint cliques in graphs. arXiv:2502.16683v2 (14 September 2025, "Updated with referees' suggestions"); published in Combinatorica 45 (2025), no. 5, article 56, doi:10.1007/s00493-025-00184-w (Crossref record; the journal text is not compared). Its p. 10 is the passage used; the library's card is balogh_2025_packing_edge_disjoint_cliques_graphs. Its reference [9], Győri, Edge disjoint cliques in graphs, Sets, graphs and numbers (Budapest, 1991), Colloq. Math. Soc. János Bolyai 60 (1992), 357--363, is cited there "for minor correction" of [Gy88]; not held.
- [GyKe17] Győri, E. and Keszegh, B., On the number of edge-disjoint triangles in -free graphs. Combinatorica 37 (2017), 1113--1124. Library home: gyori_2017_number_edge_disjoint_triangles_k_4_free_graphs (the arXiv version); the -free case with no loss, the site's Problem 1017; its introduction does not quote [Gy88]'s general theorem, so it is context on this page, not an attestation.
Formalization. The file
ErdosProblems/1009.lean
of formal-conjectures, added on 19 September 2026 (no file existed on
2026-09-18; the link pins that commit), declares erdos_1009 under
category research solved, AMS 5 with proof sorry: answer(True) holds
exactly when for every real there is a natural such that every
SimpleGraph (Fin n) with n ^ 2 / 4 + k ≤ G.edgeSet.ncard and has
a finite set of -cliques, pairwise sharing at most one vertex, of size at
least ; a variant erdos_1009.variants.sauer states Sauer's example.
Its formal_proof attribute names line 2347 of
src/latest/ErdosProblems/Erdos1009.lean in Boris Alexeev's repository
plby/lean-proofs, pinned to the repository's commit of 15 September 2026.
That file's header reads "This is a Lean formalization of a solution to
Erdős Problem 1009" and names E. Győri as informal author and Codex and
GPT-5.6 Sol as formal authors, so it is recorded as a formalization link on
Győri's claim page and not as a claim of its own; the page describes the
file, which is not built in this corpus. The site's indicator says a
formalized statement exists, and the community
database records the problem proved, with its last update
dated 31 October 2025, the statement formalized since 19 September 2026 and
no formal proof.
Current assessment
The question (site formulation of 2026-09-18). The statement above; PROVED; last edited 31 October 2025. The site's commentary, in this page's words: Erdős proved the statement for , with , from the Erdős--Gallai theorem that a graph on vertices with at least edges and chromatic number contains a triangle; he first expected for larger , but Sauer's example shows (Sauer's graph on vertices: three classes of sizes , and , every pair of vertices from different classes adjacent and the four vertices of the small class pairwise adjacent, so that it has $\lfloor n^2/4\rfloor+2n-6$ edges and only edge-disjoint triangles); and the credit to Győri recorded under Status. The thread: a comment of 02:37 on 21 October 2025 says the problem was already resolved by Theorem 1 of [Gy88] and quotes, from the proof of Lemma 3.3 of [BLPPPV21], the quantified form of the theorem (for each there are and such that every graph on vertices with edges, $k\le\delta n^2$, has at least edge-disjoint triangles), deducing at least triangles for ; a comment of 12:48 on 29 October 2025 corrects it: Győri's Theorem 1 gives for , the quantified sentence of [BLPPPV21] may be wrong, and the deduction should read for with . Both comments are marked as addressed by the site, whose page was edited on 31 October 2025. There are no proof claims. The community database record says proved, with its last update dated 31 October 2025.
Status support. The status-defining paper [Gy88] is not held. The evidence in hand:
- Erdős's question and his own theorem, [Er71] p. 98 (item_3): "I proved that if then every contains edge-disjoint triangles", "our proof only gives small values of ()", Sauer's example, and the question with . The proof is not in the paper; it "uses the following theorem of Gallai and myself: every which has chromatic number 3 contains a triangle", Lemma 1 of [Er62d]. Item 3 prints Sauer's graph as "a [sic] or " with "only edge disjoint triangles"; the graph described has edges, so the printed total is a misprint while and the site's figures are right (the item page records the check).
- The refereed quotation: [BLPPPV21], p. 8 of the arXiv copy, in the proof of its Lemma 11, derives the lemma's claim from "the result of Győri [12, Theorem 1] that a graph with vertices and edges, where and , has at least edge-disjoint triangles", then restates it in quantified form (for each there are and such that every graph on vertices with edges, , has at least edge-disjoint triangles) and points to [13, Theorem 1] for the generalization to -cliques, . Their [12] is [Gy88] and [13] is Győri, Combinatorica 11 (1991), 231--243. The thread's second comment doubts the quantified restatement; the first sentence, with a fixed implied constant, is what the site's account uses, and it is the statement relied on.
- The exact ranges: [BaWi25], p. 10: "Győri [7] proved, see [9] for minor correction, if when is odd or if when is even", where is the least number of edge-disjoint triangles over -vertex graphs with edges. The refereed [BLPPPV21] states the same ranges in its Section 5 (the related results, p. 17 of the arXiv copy): with its this page's and the guaranteed number of edge-disjoint triangles, it credits Győri (with a correction in its [14]) for large with when , and with when for odd or for even , both ranges being sharp. The site's sentence that when is odd and , or is even and , is these ranges read for large in terms of ; as a statement for every it is false (an authored check): has edges and only edge-disjoint triangles, so for odd and every ; has edges and only edge-disjoint triangles, so for even and every ; and Sauer's graph at (, at most triangles) gives for .
- The zbMATH record of [Gy88] (Zbl 0706.05029), whose review, identified as a review and not as the theorem, summarizes the paper's results by "".
An authored conversion from the quoted first sentence: it gives , and such that every -vertex graph with edges, and , has at least edge-disjoint triangles. For and this is at least ; for smaller the trivial bound holds; so answers the question, with the dependence of , , on nothing but the theorem. Whether holds for every , as the site writes, depends on constants not visible in the quotation and is recorded as the site's reading of [Gy88]. Read depth: the quotation was read clause by clause in the arXiv copy; nothing of Győri's proof was read.
Neighbors. The -free case is Problem 1017's Győri--Keszegh theorem (every -free graph with edges has edge-disjoint triangles, [GyKe17]); Sauer's graph contains a , which is why the loss appears. [BaWi25] proves Győri's conjecture for -cliques ( edge-disjoint -cliques above ) and gives on p. 10 a construction showing that the -free hypothesis matters for ; both are outside this problem's range .
Search scope. None of the routes below found a dispute of Győri's theorem or a second proof of the statement.
- The site: problem page, discussion thread and proof-claim tab; the community database (2026-09-18 and 2026-10-06); the formal-conjectures listing of 2026-09-18 (no file 1009 on that date; the file of 19 September 2026 is recorded under Formalization).
- The primary sources: [Er71] p. 98; [BLPPPV21] p. 8 of the arXiv copy; [BaWi25] p. 10; [GyKe17]'s introduction (no quotation of [Gy88]).
- zbMATH Open API:
au:Gyori ti:"edge-disjoint triangles" py:1988(one record, Zbl 0706.05029). - arXiv API: the records of 2502.16683 (v2 of 14 September 2025, no
journal reference) and 1909.11371 (v3, journal reference Combin. Probab.
Comput. 30 (2021) 271--287); the search
all:"edge-disjoint triangles" OR all:"edge disjoint triangles"sorted by date (38 records, titles read: Tuza's conjecture, triangle packings and coverings, [BaWi25] and [GyKe17]; none on the excess beyond those two).
Not searched: MathSciNet, Google Scholar, Semantic Scholar (the paper has no DOI), X. Not held: [Gy88], Győri 1991 and 1992.
Remaining gaps. (1) The status-defining text is print-only and not held; its theorem is used through one refereed quotation whose sharper second sentence a thread comment disputes, and through two refereed papers' reports of the exact ranges. Reopening condition: a readable copy of [Gy88] (and of the 1992 correction), after which Theorem 1 is paged with its exact statement, constants and range of , and the site's "" is checked. (2) Erdős's theorem for is stated without proof in [Er71]; it is not compiled in this corpus. (3) Proof coverage is statements only. (4) The formal-conjectures statement of 19 September 2026 points to an external Lean proof that declares itself a formalization of Győri's result; it is not built, and is a formalization link on the claim page, not acceptance evidence.
Known results
- Erdős 1971, item 3: for (Erdős, stated); Sauer's example, ; the question.
- Győri 1988, Theorem 1 (not held; quoted in [BLPPPV21] p. 8): edge-disjoint triangles for , hence exists for every ; the exact ranges ( odd) and ( even) with no loss, for large , as [BLPPPV21] Section 5 and [BaWi25] p. 10 report them.
- The Lean development of 2026 in Alexeev's repository, a self-declared formalization of Győri's result (a formalization link on the claim page; not built).
Linked library material
These entries are derived from explicit links on library pages. They are navigation only and do not by themselves record mathematical progress.
- balogh_2025_packing_edge_disjoint_cliques_graphs
- blumenthal_2021_sharp_bounds_decomposing_graphs_edges_triangles
- blumenthal_2021_sharp_bounds_decomposing_graphs_edges_triangles / lemma_11
- blumenthal_2021_sharp_bounds_decomposing_graphs_edges_triangles / related_results_p17
- blumenthal_2021_sharp_bounds_decomposing_graphs_edges_triangles / theorem_5
- erdos_1971_unsolved_problems_graph_theory_combinatorial_analysis
- erdos_1971_unsolved_problems_graph_theory_combinatorial_analysis / item_3
- gyori_2017_number_edge_disjoint_triangles_k_4_free_graphs / theorem_1