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Statement. Let Rk(G)R_k(G) denote the minimal mm such that if the edges of KmK_m are kk-coloured then there is a monochromatic copy of GG. Show that

lim⁡k→∞Rk(C2n+1)Rk(K3)=0\lim_{k\to \infty}\frac{R_k(C_{2n+1})}{R_k(K_3)}=0

for any n≥2n\geq 2.

Formulation. The site's wording of 2026-09-17 (page last edited 8 February 2026). Rk(G)R_k(G) is the least forcing order and a kk-coloring need not use every color; Rk(K3)=Rk(C3)R_k(K_3)=R_k(C_3) is the kk-color Ramsey number of the triangle, written R(3;k)R(3;k) on the page of Problem 183. The question fixes n≥2n\ge2 and lets the number of colors grow; the regime of fixed kk and growing cycle length is a different question, settled by Jenssen and Skokan. Erdős and Graham's 1975 paper writes r(C2n+1;k)r(C_{2n+1};k) with the same convention; Erdős's 1981 survey writes r(C2n+1,k)r(C_{2n+1},k) for the largest order that admits a good coloring, one less, which does not affect the ratio.

Status. Open, in the site's label. No source proves the limit for every n≥2n\ge2. For n≥4n\ge4 the limit is 00, by an elementary comparison of two accepted bounds: the refereed upper bound Rk(C2n+1)≤(4n−2)kkk/n+1R_k(C_{2n+1})\le(4n-2)^kk^{k/n}+1 of Axenovich, Cames van Batenburg, Janzer, Michel and Rundström [ACJMR25] and the lower bound Rk(K3)≥(ck1/3/log⁡k)kR_k(K_3)\ge(ck^{1/3}/\log k)^k of the 2026 OpenAI report, which the claim page OpenAI 2026 of Problem 183 records as accepted, reviewed by the site's curator and through Rob Morris's exposition hosted on the site, from an unrefereed report. The comparison is claimed, conditionally on those two bounds, by the research report of 1 August 2026 linked from the discussion thread, recorded on the partial claim page mysticflounder 2026, and this page's own comparison below reproduces it. For n=2n=2 and n=3n=3 the same bounds are inconclusive, and the search, whose scope the Current assessment records, found no proof, disproof or proof claim for them; the site says the problem is open even for n=2n=2. This is a bounded negative finding on the two remaining cases, not a certificate of openness. The OpenAI report itself has no claim page here, since its theorem asserts nothing about this problem's statement.

Source. erdosproblems.com/554, accessed 2026-09-17: the problem page (OPEN, which the site qualifies as not resolvable by a finite computation; last edited 8 February 2026; source key [Er81c]; commentary citing [Sc16], [BoEr73], [ErGr75], [JeSk21], [DaJo17], [ACJMR25] and Problem 183), its four-comment discussion thread (27 July to 2 August 2026) and its empty proof-claim tab. Cite as: T. F. Bloom, Erdős Problem #554, https://www.erdosproblems.com/554, accessed 2026-09-17.

References.

  • [Er81c] Erdős, P., Some new problems and results in graph theory and other branches of combinatorial mathematics. Combinatorics and graph theory (Calcutta, 1980), Lecture Notes in Math. 885 (1981), 9--17; item (11), printed p. 12, and the Schur attribution on p. 10. Library home: erdos_1981_new_problems_results_graph_theory_other.
  • [ErGr75] Erdős, P. and Graham, R. L., On partition theorems for finite graphs. Infinite and finite sets (Colloq., Keszthely, 1973), Colloq. Math. Soc. János Bolyai 10 (1975), 515--527; Theorems 7 and 8, pp. 523--524, the remark on p. 525 and question (v) on p. 526. Library home: erdos_1975_partition_theorems_finite_graphs.
  • [BoEr73] Bondy, J. A. and Erdős, P., Ramsey numbers for cycles in graphs. J. Combin. Theory Ser. B 14 (1973), 46--54, DOI 10.1016/S0095-8956(73)80005-X; Section 4, p. 53. Library home: bondy_1973_ramsey_numbers_cycles_graphs.
  • [DaJo17] Day, A. N. and Johnson, J. R., Multicolour Ramsey numbers of odd cycles. J. Combin. Theory Ser. B 124 (2017), 56--63, DOI 10.1016/j.jctb.2016.12.005; arXiv:1602.07607v2 (16 January 2017), the version cited. Theorem 4, p. 2. Library home: day_2017_multicolour_ramsey_numbers_odd_cycles.
  • [JeSk21] Jenssen, M. and Skokan, J., Exact Ramsey numbers of odd cycles via nonlinear optimisation. Adv. Math. 376 (2021), Paper No. 107444, DOI 10.1016/j.aim.2020.107444; arXiv:1608.05705v1 (19 August 2016), the version cited. Theorem 1.2, p. 2. Library home: jenssen_2021_exact_ramsey_numbers_odd_cycles_via.
  • [ACJMR25] Axenovich, M., Cames van Batenburg, W., Janzer, O., Michel, L. and Rundström, M., An improved upper bound for the multicolour Ramsey number of odd cycles. J. Combin. Theory Ser. B 179 (2026), 293--298, DOI 10.1016/j.jctb.2026.04.005; arXiv:2510.17981v1 (20 October 2025), the version cited. Theorem 1.1, p. 2. Library home: axenovich_2025_improved_upper_bound_multicolour_ramsey_number.
  • [MMPZ26] Miyazaki, R., Mulrenin, E., Pohoata, C. and Zheng, M., Improved Ramsey bounds for generalized Schur equations. arXiv:2605.15147v1 (14 May 2026). Preprint; Remark 2.2, p. 5. Library home: miyazaki_2026_improved_ramsey_bounds_generalized_schur_equations.
  • [HYC26] Huang, T., Yang, J. and Chen, Y., New upper bound for the Ramsey number of odd cycles. arXiv:2608.01921v1 (3 August 2026). Preprint; Theorem 5, p. 3. Library home: huang_2026_new_upper_bound_ramsey_number_odd_cycles.
  • [Sc16] Schur, I., Über die Kongruenz xm+ym≡zm(modp)x^m+y^m\equiv z^m\pmod p. Jahresber. Deutsch. Math.-Verein. 25 (1916), 114--117; the Hilfssatz, p. 114, and the lower bound Nm≥(3m−1)/2N_m\ge(3^m-1)/2, p. 117. Library home: schur_1916_uber_die_kongruenz (p. 117 from the GDZ copy).
  • [OAI26] OpenAI, Ten Advances in Mathematics and Theoretical Computer Science, technical report, August 6, 2026 version; Chapter 9, Theorem 1.1, printed p. 230. Library home: openai_2026_ten_advances_mathematics_theoretical_computer_science.
  • [FrSw00] Fredricksen, H. and Sweet, M. M., Symmetric sum-free partitions and lower bounds for Schur numbers. Electron. J. Combin. 7 (2000), R32. Cited by [DaJo17] for Rk(C3)≥c(3.1996…)kR_k(C_3)\ge c(3.1996\ldots)^k; pp. 1--2 are quoted on the card: the paper states only R6(3)≥538R_6(3)\ge538 and R7(3)≥1682R_7(3)\ge1682 and no exponential constant. Library home: fredricksen_2000_symmetric_sum_free_partitions_lower_bounds.
  • [GrGl55] Greenwood, R. E. and Gleason, A. M., Combinatorial relations and chromatic graphs. Canad. J. Math. 7 (1955), 1--7. Not held; cited by [DaJo17] for Rk(C3)≤ek!+1R_k(C_3)\le ek!+1.
  • [St26] Steiner, R., Multicolor Ramsey numbers of odd cycles are superexponential. arXiv:2608.02537 (v1 3 August 2026, 12 pages; v2 7 September 2026, withdrawn, with the comment that v2 of arXiv:2608.02522, Locally bipartite subgraphs via multicolor Ramsey numbers, 28 pages, 7 September 2026, supersedes it). Not held; abstracts only (arXiv).
  • [My26] mysticflounder (forum user), Erdős Problem #554: odd-cycle Ramsey ratios versus triangles. Research report, 1 August 2026, revised 2 August 2026; a GitHub gist in nine revisions, the last of 2 August 2026, linked from the discussion thread (accessed 2026-10-07). Claim page mysticflounder 2026.

Formalization. None. No file ErdosProblems/554.lean exists in formal-conjectures (main; none on 2026-09-17 or 2026-10-07), the site's page records no formalized statement, and the community database (teorth/erdosproblems) records the problem as open and unformalized with no formal-proof URL.

Current assessment

The question (site formulation of 2026-09-17). The statement above; OPEN; last edited 8 February 2026. The site's commentary attributes the problem to Erdős and Graham and says that even the case n=2n=2 is unsettled. It credits Schur with Ck≪Rk(K3)≪k!C^k\ll R_k(K_3)\ll k! and records Erdős's conjecture (Problem 183) that Rk(K3)≤CkR_k(K_3)\le C^k; it credits Bondy and Erdős and Erdős and Graham with n2k+1≤Rk(C2n+1)≤2n(k+2)!n2^k+1\le R_k(C_{2n+1})\le2n(k+2)!, Jenssen and Skokan with the sharpness of that lower bound for fixed kk and large nn, Day and Johnson with Rk(C2n+1)≥2n(2+cn)k−1R_k(C_{2n+1})\ge2n(2+c_n)^{k-1} for fixed nn and large kk, and Axenovich and coauthors with the improved upper bound (4n−2)kkk/n+1(4n-2)^kk^{k/n}+1, from which it draws Rk(C2n+1)≤(Cn)kk!1/nR_k(C_{2n+1})\le(Cn)^kk!^{1/n}; it lists the problem as #23 in the Ramsey Theory section of the graphs collection. The commentary's summary of Problem 183 predates the OpenAI report of August 2026 (below). The community database record says open (last updated 31 August 2025), unformalized, no formal proof.

Origin. Erdős and Graham's 1975 paper poses the question as its concluding item (v) (printed p. 526): "Is it true that lim⁡k→∞r(C2n+1;k)/r(C3;k)→0\lim_{k\to\infty}r(C_{2n+1};k)/r(C_3;k)\to0 for n≥2n\ge2. It is not even known at present that log⁡r(C2n+1;k)/k=O(1)\log r(C_{2n+1};k)/k=O(1), n≥2n\ge2"; a remark after Theorem 8 (p. 525) says "It is probably true ... but this is not known at present". Erdős's 1981 survey, the site's source key, restates it as item (11) (p. 12): "Graham and I conjectured that lim⁡n→∞r(C2n+1,k)/r(C3,k)=0\lim_{n\to\infty}r(C_{2n+1},k)/r(C_3,k)=0 [sic] ... (11) is open even for n=2n=2. Perhaps the proof of r(C5,k)<Ckr(C_5,k)<C^k will not be too hard", with the limit subscript misprinted as n→∞n\to\infty (the text fixes nn and varies kk) and r(⋅,k)r(\cdot,k) the largest good order.

The numerator Rk(C2n+1)R_k(C_{2n+1}) for fixed n≥2n\ge2. Lower bounds. Erdős--Graham Theorem 7 (p. 523): 2kn<r(C2n+1;k)<2(k+2)! n2^kn<r(C_{2n+1};k)<2(k+2)!\,n, whose lower half is Rk(C2n+1)≥n2k+1R_k(C_{2n+1})\ge n2^k+1 by the doubling construction; Bondy and Erdős state the same bound as 2k−1(m−1)+12^{k-1}(m-1)+1 for odd cycle length mm in their Section 4 (p. 53), together with the upper bound (k+2)! m(k+2)!\,m "we can show"; the three lower bounds agree once the cycle length is written the same way, while Bondy and Erdős's upper bound reads (2n+1)(k+2)!(2n+1)(k+2)! for C2n+1C_{2n+1} against the 2n(k+2)!2n(k+2)! of Erdős and Graham and the site. Day--Johnson Theorem 4 (arXiv v2 p. 2; J. Combin. Theory Ser. B 124 (2017)): for every odd rr there is ε(r)>0\varepsilon(r)>0 with Rk(Cr)>(r−1)(2+ε)k−1R_k(C_r)>(r-1)(2+\varepsilon)^{k-1} for all large kk, which disproves the Bondy--Erdős exact-value conjecture for fixed odd r>3r>3 and large kk and is the site's 2n(2+cn)k−12n(2+c_n)^{k-1} (the paper prints a strict inequality). Upper bounds. Theorem 7's 2(k+2)! n2(k+2)!\,n; Theorem 8 (p. 524), r(C2n+1;k)<ck3n r(C3;k)2r(C_{2n+1};k)<ck^3n\,r(C_3;k)^2, which bounds the numerator by the square of the denominator and gives nothing toward the ratio; Axenovich et al. Theorem 1.1 (arXiv v1 p. 2; J. Combin. Theory Ser. B 179 (2026), 293--298, refereed; the text cited is the preprint, whose statement was not compared with the journal's): Rk(C2ℓ+1)≤(4ℓ−2)kkk/ℓ+1R_k(C_{2\ell+1})\le(4\ell-2)^kk^{k/\ell}+1 for all k,ℓk,\ell; Miyazaki et al. Remark 2.2 (arXiv v1 p. 5; preprint): r(C2ℓ+1;q)≤(4ℓ−2)q(q!)1/ℓ+1r(C_{2\ell+1};q)\le(4\ell-2)^q(q!)^{1/\ell}+1; and Huang--Yang--Chen Theorem 5 (arXiv v1 p. 3; preprint, no journal record): for fixed ℓ≥2\ell\ge2 and large kk, Rk(C2ℓ+1)≤2ℓ2ℓ−1(2ℓ−1)k(k!)1/ℓexp⁡(k1−1/ℓ+Oℓ(k1−2/ℓ+log⁡k))+1R_k(C_{2\ell+1})\le\frac{2\ell}{2\ell-1}(2\ell-1)^k(k!)^{1/\ell}\exp(k^{1-1/\ell}+O_\ell(k^{1-2/\ell}+\log k))+1. In the opposite regime, Jenssen--Skokan Theorem 1.2 (arXiv v1 p. 2; Adv. Math. 376 (2021), refereed) gives Rk(Cm)=2k−1(m−1)+1R_k(C_m)=2^{k-1}(m-1)+1 for fixed k≥2k\ge2 and all large odd mm, with no effective bound on mm.

The denominator Rk(K3)R_k(K_3). Upper bound: Schur's Hilfssatz (p. 114) bounds the Schur numbers by S(m)<m! eS(m)<m!\,e and says nothing about graphs; the standard difference coloring translates Schur numbers into Ramsey numbers only in the direction Rk(K3)≥S(k)+2R_k(K_3)\ge S(k)+2 (below), so Schur's bound on S(k)S(k) gives no upper bound on Rk(K3)R_k(K_3). The factorial upper bound Rk(K3)≤ek!+1R_k(K_3)\le ek!+1 comes from the Greenwood--Gleason recursion on the color classes at one vertex, which transposes Schur's argument from sum-free partitions to colorings; Erdős's 1981 survey (p. 10) attributes rk(C3)<e⋅k!r_k(C_3)<e\cdot k! to Schur, while Day and Johnson (p. 3) credit Rk(C3)≤ek!+1R_k(C_3)\le ek!+1 to Greenwood and Gleason, "see also Schur". The library also records, on Problem 183's page, a compiled derivation of R(3;k)≤(e−16)k!+1R(3;k)\le(e-\tfrac16)k!+1 for k≥4k\ge4 from the published finite bound R(3;4)≤62R(3;4)\le62 (factorial upper route). Lower bounds: the exponential bound Rk(C3)≥c(3.1996…)kR_k(C_3)\ge c(3.1996\ldots)^k that Day and Johnson (p. 2) attribute to Fredricksen and Sweet (second-hand; the library's card records that pp. 1--2 state only R6(3)≥538R_6(3)\ge538 and R7(3)≥1682R_7(3)\ge1682 and that the constant 3.1996…3.1996\ldots does not appear in the paper); the exponential lower bound Ck≪Rk(K3)C^k\ll R_k(K_3) that the site's commentary credits to Schur, whose p. 117 proves Nm+1≥3Nm+1N_{m+1}\ge3N_m+1 and hence Nm≥(3m−1)/2N_m\ge(3^m-1)/2 for the largest NmN_m admitting a difference-free partition of {1,…,Nm}\{1,\ldots,N_m\} into mm rows, that is S(m)≥(3m−1)/2S(m)\ge(3^m-1)/2, which the standard translation turns into Rm(K3)≥(3m+3)/2R_m(K_3)\ge(3^m+3)/2, an exponential lower bound with base 33, without any mention of graphs in the paper; and the superexponential bound of OpenAI's Chapter 9, Theorem 1.1 (printed p. 230 of the August 6, 2026 report): there is an absolute c>0c>0 with Rk(3)≥(ck1/3/log⁡k)kR_k(3)\ge(ck^{1/3}/\log k)^k for every k≥2k\ge2. That theorem is compiled in full in the library, and its five-result route passed this corpus's own fresh-context review with a distinct grade, recorded on the chapter's evidence page; that review awards no acceptance, the report is not a refereed publication, and this page relies on the theorem at the standing its claim page records: the claim page OpenAI 2026 of Problem 183 records the bound as accepted, reviewed by the site's curator, who labels that problem SOLVED (LEAN) and credits the result, and through Rob Morris's exposition hosted on the site, from an unrefereed report. It refutes the conjecture Rk(K3)≤CkR_k(K_3)\le C^k that the site's commentary on this problem still records and settles Problem 183.

What the two bounds give (a deduction made on this page, also stated as Section 4 of [My26]). For n≥4n\ge4, Axenovich et al. and the OpenAI theorem give

Rk(C2n+1)Rk(K3)≤((4n−2) k1n−13log⁡kc)k+(log⁡kc k1/3)k⟶0,\frac{R_k(C_{2n+1})}{R_k(K_3)} \le\Bigl(\frac{(4n-2)\,k^{\frac1n-\frac13}\log k}{c}\Bigr)^k +\Bigl(\frac{\log k}{c\,k^{1/3}}\Bigr)^k\longrightarrow0,

because 1n−13≤−112<0\frac1n-\frac13\le-\frac1{12}<0 makes both bases tend to 00. So the statement holds for every n≥4n\ge4, resting on two accepted inputs: [ACJMR25], refereed, and the OpenAI bound, reviewed on Problem 183's claim page. The same deduction, with the same two terms, is Section 4 of [My26]. For n=3n=3 the first base is (10/c)log⁡k(10/c)\log k and for n=2n=2 it is (6/c)k1/6log⁡k(6/c)k^{1/6}\log k, both unbounded, so the same inputs decide nothing; replacing kk/nk^{k/n} by the preprints' (k!)1/n(k!)^{1/n} or Huang, Yang and Chen's sharper form changes the constants and lower-order factors but not the exponent of kk, so the cases n=2n=2 and n=3n=3 remain open, as the site says. Nothing here is independently reviewed; the comparison is elementary and unreviewed, and it is not a status.

Forum and AI-assisted items. The discussion thread (as of 2026-09-17; the site does not verify comments): a comment of 1 August 2026 by the forum user mysticflounder reports, crediting Claude with an adversarial audit by GPT 5.6 and linking a GitHub gist, that the OpenAI result leaves only the cases n=2n=2 and n=3n=3 to settle; a reply of 2 August 2026 by a coauthor of [ACJMR25] notes that the reduction also needs their upper-bound paper, so that the two papers together dispose of every n≥4n\ge4 while n=2n=2 and n=3n=3 remain; a follow-up of 2 August 2026 and a typo report of 27 July 2026, which discloses GPT-5.5, complete the thread. The gist is the research report [My26]: it states that if the Chapter 9 lower bound and the [ACJMR25] upper bound are correct then the limit is 00 for every fixed n≥4n\ge4, by the same two-term comparison as the previous paragraph, leaves n=2n=2 and n=3n=3 open with the exponent and logarithmic gaps named, and reports a source-level inspection of the OpenAI Lean bundle without a build or axiom audit; it is recorded as the partial claim page mysticflounder 2026. Separately, Steiner's arXiv note 2608.02537 [St26] (v1 3 August 2026; abstracts of v1 and v2) states that, for the family Op={C3,C5,…,C2p+1}\mathcal O_p=\{C_3,C_5,\ldots,C_{2p+1}\} and fixed pp, Rk(Op)≥(log⁡(p−1)k)k/3−o(k)R_k(\mathcal O_p)\ge(\log^{(p-1)}k)^{k/3-o(k)} with log⁡(p−1)\log^{(p-1)} the iterated logarithm, by a modification of the OpenAI construction, and continues: "This immediately implies that for every fixed odd cycle, the multicolor Ramsey number is superexponential in the number of colors." The abstract says the proof "was found autonomously by ChatGPT 5.6 Pro/Sol". The note's v2 (7 September 2026) withdraws it in favor of v2 of arXiv:2608.02522 (28 pages, same day), which, by its comment, supersedes the first versions of both papers and adds results. If the bound stands it answers the 1975 paper's companion question in the negative (log⁡Rk(C2n+1)/k\log R_k(C_{2n+1})/k is then unbounded for every n≥2n\ge2) and makes the numerator superexponential, but it gives no comparison with Rk(K3)R_k(K_3) and so nothing on the ratio for n=2,3n=2,3. Only the abstracts of the two preprints are cited, and neither is held.

Search scope. The status rests on these routes; none found a proof or disproof for n=2n=2 or n=3n=3, a refutation of the inputs above, or a proof claim.

  • The site: problem page, discussion thread and proof-claim tab; the community database record; the formal-conjectures directory on main (no file 554).
  • The primary sources: [ErGr75] pp. 515 and 521--527; [Er81c] pp. 9--14; [Sc16] pp. 114--117; [BoEr73] pp. 53--54; [DaJo17] pp. 1--3; [JeSk21] p. 2; [ACJMR25] p. 2; [MMPZ26] p. 5; [HYC26] p. 3; the library's compiled pages for [OAI26], not the report itself.
  • arXiv: the API listing for 2510.17981 (v1 only), 2605.15147 (v1 only), 2608.01921 (v1 only), 1602.07607 (v1, v2), 1608.05705 (v1 only), 2608.02537 (v1, v2) and 2608.02522 (v1, v2), with abstracts (the abstract pages themselves were not reached for seven of the eight); the API metadata search abs:Ramsey AND abs:"odd cycles" restricted to multicolor terms (13 records; the 2026 ones are [HYC26], [St26], 2608.02522 and 2609.17773 on short monochromatic odd cycles in colorings of Krk+1K_{r^k+1}, a Problem 609 relative).
  • Crossref records for the DOIs of [DaJo17], [JeSk21] and [ACJMR25] and bibliographic queries for [St26] (no publication record).
  • Semantic Scholar citation lists of [ACJMR25] (7 records) and [DaJo17] (26 records), scanned by title: the 2026 items are [HYC26], [St26], 2608.02522, 2609.17773, 2609.06481 (induced cycles), 2608.03661 (Schur-like numbers) and 2602.05960 (size-Ramsey); none reports a proof or disproof of the ratio statement.

Not searched: MathSciNet, zbMATH, Google Scholar, X. Not read: the proofs of every bound above (statements only, except the OpenAI route as compiled on Problem 183's page); [St26] and 2608.02522 beyond their abstracts; [FrSw00] beyond pp. 1--2; [GrGl55]. Read in full: [My26].

Remaining gaps. (1) The cases n=2n=2 and n=3n=3 are open; the exponent comparison above fails there, and no other route was found. (2) The n≥4n\ge4 conclusion rests on the OpenAI theorem's standing (accepted on Problem 183's claim page as reviewed, by the site's curator and Morris's exposition, from an unrefereed report with no refereed version) and on Axenovich et al.'s statement as printed in the arXiv version; the journal text was not compared. The comparison itself, on this page and in [My26], is unreviewed. (3) The denominator's classical bounds are obtained through translations Schur's paper does not make: Schur's pp. 114--117 give S(m)<m! eS(m)<m!\,e and S(m)≥(3m−1)/2S(m)\ge(3^m-1)/2 for the Schur numbers; the lower bound passes to Rk(K3)≥S(k)+2R_k(K_3)\ge S(k)+2 by the standard difference coloring, while the upper bound Rk(K3)≤ek!+1R_k(K_3)\le ek!+1 is the Greenwood--Gleason recursion, attested second-hand through [DaJo17]; reopening condition: the Greenwood--Gleason paper. (4) The superexponential numerator bound of [St26] is a preprint lead with an AI declaration and a superseding version; if refereed or reviewed it would settle the 1975 companion question. (5) Proof coverage: the numerator and denominator bounds are recorded at statement level (claims checked); no proof here is rewritten or independently reviewed.

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