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Problem 556

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Statement. Let R3(G)R_3(G) denote the minimal mm such that if the edges of KmK_m are 33-coloured then there must be a monochromatic copy of GG. Show that

R3(Cn)≤4n−3.R_3(C_n) \leq 4n-3.

Statement (corrected). Let R3(G)R_3(G) denote the minimal mm such that if the edges of KmK_m are 33-coloured then there must be a monochromatic copy of GG. Show that for every n>3n>3

R3(Cn)≤4n−3.R_3(C_n) \leq 4n-3.

Notes. The site's wording quantifies over every cycle length n≥3n\ge3 and fails at n=3n=3: C3=K3C_3=K_3, so R3(C3)=R(3,3,3)R_3(C_3)=R(3,3,3), which is 17>9=4⋅3−317>9=4\cdot3-3. The strict inequality R(3,3,3)>9R(3,3,3)>9 is elementary: two copies of the two-colored K5K_5 without a monochromatic triangle (the pentagon in one color, the pentagram in the other), joined by all crossing edges in the third color, give a 33-coloring of K10K_{10} with no monochromatic triangle, checked over all 120120 triples, so R(3,3,3)≥11R(3,3,3)\ge11. A comment of 13 July 2026 by KentaKitamura in the site's discussion thread records the same failure. It is the only recorded failure: the values listed in OEIS A389335 give the inequality for 4≤n≤84\le n\le8, and the theorems below give it for all large nn. The change inserts the words "for every n>3n>3" before the display; nothing else changes. The defect is already in the poser's text: Erdős's own statements of the conjecture, [Er81] Part V, display (3), p. 9 of the re-typeset copy, and [Er81c] display (15), printed p. 13, print r(Cn,Cn,Cn)≤4n−3r(C_n,C_n,C_n)\le4n-3 with no restriction on nn, and each adds only that the bound, if true, is best possible for odd nn; the site reproduces that wording. The threshold is the literature's statement of the conjecture as Bondy and Erdős's: [KSS05] p. 2, display (2), "Bondy and Erdős [4] conjectured that if n>3n>3 is odd, then R(Cn,Cn,Cn)=4n−3R(C_n,C_n,C_n)=4n-3", and [BeSk09] p. 2, display (1), which states the same equality for odd n>3n>3; both papers settle only large nn, so neither settles the corrected Statement. The corrected Statement is a combined form: the literature's "n>3n>3", kept for even nn as Erdős's bound and the site's are; it is the form OEIS A389335 prints, "a(n)≤4n−3a(n)\le4n-3 for n≥4n\ge4". The form rests on these sources alone, not on which results settle it. The one result about the site's wording alone is the value R(3,3,3)=17R(3,3,3)=17 of R. E. Greenwood and A. M. Gleason, Combinatorial relations and chromatic graphs, Canad. J. Math. 7 (1955), 1--7, doi:10.4153/CJM-1955-001-4; it is correct, but it answers the site's wording (every n≥3n\ge3), not the corrected Statement (every n>3n>3), so it does not count toward the problem's standing; it is credited here and on its rejected claim page, Greenwood and Gleason 1955. The problem's standing judges the corrected Statement.

Formulation. The site's wording (page last edited 8 February 2026). R3(Cn)R_3(C_n) is the three-color Ramsey number the sources write R(Cn,Cn,Cn)R(C_n,C_n,C_n). Erdős's own statements of the conjecture, [Er81] and [Er81c], print the bound with no restriction on nn; the other sources restrict it to odd nn: the conjecture the site calls Bondy and Erdős's is printed in [KSS05] and [BeSk09] as R(Cn,Cn,Cn)=4n−3R(C_n,C_n,C_n)=4n-3 for odd n>3n>3, while the 1973 paper itself states, for kk colors and odd nn, only the two bounds 2k−1(n−1)+1≤Rk(Cn)≤(k+2)! n2^{k-1}(n-1)+1\le R_k(C_n)\le(k+2)!\,n without the word "conjecture" (result page). For odd nn the bound is sharp (the lower bound R3(Cn)≥4n−3R_3(C_n)\ge4n-3 holds for every odd nn by two explicit colorings of K4n−4K_{4n-4}, [KSS05] Claim 2); for even nn it is far from sharp, the value being 2n2n for all large even nn.

Status. Decidable, in the site's label (page last edited 8 February 2026), which the site defines as resolved up to a finite check; the label describes the corrected Statement, which excludes n=3n=3. The frontmatter standing, derived from the claim pages, judges the corrected Statement and is open: the partial claim pages Kohayakawa, Simonovits and Skokan 2005 and Jenssen and Skokan 2016 cover all large odd nn, and Benevides and Skokan 2008 all large even nn, while the nn from 99 up to the two unnamed thresholds remain open. The Benevides--Skokan and Jenssen--Skokan pages are accepted on their refereed journal publications; the Kohayakawa--Simonovits--Skokan page is claimed, since its full proof is an unrefereed research report and its proceedings abstract is not shown to have been refereed. The curator's credit to Kohayakawa, Simonovits and Skokan and to Benevides and Skokan is recorded on their pages and is not acceptance evidence, because the site's label DECIDABLE does not mark the problem settled.

Source. erdosproblems.com/556, accessed 2026-09-17: the problem page (DECIDABLE, the site's label for a problem resolved up to a finite check; source keys [Er81], [Er81c]; last edited 8 February 2026), its two-comment discussion thread and its empty proof-claim tab. The site cites [Lu99], [KSS05] and [BeSk09] in its commentary and links OEIS A389335. Cite as: T. F. Bloom, Erdős Problem #556, https://www.erdosproblems.com/556, accessed 2026-09-17.

References.

  • [BoEr73] Bondy, J. A. and Erdős, P., Ramsey numbers for cycles in graphs. J. Combinatorial Theory Ser. B 14 (1973), no. 1, 46--54, doi:10.1016/S0095-8956(73)80005-X; Section 4, p. 53. Library home: bondy_1973_ramsey_numbers_cycles_graphs.
  • [KSS05] Kohayakawa, Y., Simonovits, M. and Skokan, J., The 3-colored Ramsey number of odd cycles. Proceedings of GRACO2005, Electron. Notes Discrete Math. 19 (2005), 397--402, doi:10.1016/j.endm.2005.05.053 (an extended abstract); the full proof is CDAM Research Report LSE-CDAM-2008-16 (38 pages), whose pages and statement numbers are used here: Theorem 1, p. 2; Claim 2, p. 4; Theorem 3, p. 5. Library home: kohayakawa_2005_3_colored_ramsey_number_odd_cycles.
  • [BeSk09] Benevides, F. S. and Skokan, J., The 3-colored Ramsey number of even cycles. J. Combin. Theory Ser. B 99 (2009), no. 4, 690--708, doi:10.1016/j.jctb.2008.12.002; locators are those of CDAM Research Report LSE-CDAM-2008-17 (22 pages): Theorem 1, p. 2; Lemma 2, p. 3. Library home: benevides_2009_3_colored_ramsey_number_even_cycles.
  • [JeSk21] Jenssen, M. and Skokan, J., Exact Ramsey numbers of odd cycles via nonlinear optimisation. Adv. Math. (2021), Paper No. 107444, 46 pp.; arXiv:1608.05705. Theorem 1.2: Rk(Cn)=2k−1(n−1)+1R_k(C_n)=2^{k-1}(n-1)+1 for fixed k≥2k\ge2 and all sufficiently large odd nn; its k=3k=3 case is the odd half of this problem for large nn. Library home: jenssen_2021_exact_ramsey_numbers_odd_cycles_via; result page Theorem 1.2.
  • [Lu99] Łuczak, T., R(Cn,Cn,Cn)≤(4+o(1))nR(C_n,C_n,C_n)\leq(4+o(1))n. J. Combin. Theory Ser. B 75 (1999), no. 2, 174--187, doi:10.1006/jctb.1998.1874. Its abstract and its zbMATH review (Zbl 0934.05091) state the bound (4+o(1))n(4+o(1))n for every nn, asymptotically sharp for odd nn; [KSS05] (3) and [BeSk09] p. 2 quote the odd case.
  • [LSS12] Łuczak, T., Simonovits, M. and Skokan, J., On the multi-colored Ramsey numbers of cycles. J. Graph Theory 69 (2012), 169--175; arXiv:1005.3926. Cited from its abstract: bounds for k≥4k\ge4 colors, adjacent to this problem.
  • [Er81] Erdős, P., On the combinatorial problems which I would most like to see solved. Combinatorica 1 (1981), 25--42. Site source key; Part V, display (3), p. 9 of the re-typeset copy. Library home: erdos_1981_combinatorial_problems_which_i_would_most.
  • [Er81c] Erdős, P., Some new problems and results in graph theory and other branches of combinatorial mathematics. Combinatorics and graph theory (Calcutta, 1980), Lecture Notes in Math. 885, Springer (1981), 9--17; display (15), printed p. 13. Library home: erdos_1981_new_problems_results_graph_theory_other.
  • [OEIS] Beregovsky, E., Sequence A389335, The On-Line Encyclopedia of Integer Sequences (2025), https://oeis.org/A389335, accessed 2026-09-17: R(Cn,Cn,Cn)R(C_n,C_n,C_n) for n=3,…,8n=3,\ldots,8, with the conjecture stated as "a(n)≤4n−3a(n)\le4n-3 for n≥4n\ge4" and Radziszowski's survey among its links.

Formalization. None. formal-conjectures had no file ErdosProblems/556.lean on its main branch as of 2026-10-07; the site's page records no formalized statement, and the community database (teorth/erdosproblems, as of 2026-10-06) records the problem as decidable and unformalized, with no formal-proof URL and OEIS A389335.

Current assessment

The question (site formulation). The statement above; status DECIDABLE, which the page defines as resolved up to a finite check; last edited 8 February 2026. The site's commentary gives the problem to Bondy and Erdős and remarks that for odd nn the inequality cannot be improved. It records three results: Łuczak's [Lu99] asymptotic upper bounds, (4+o(1))n(4+o(1))n for every nn and 3n+o(n)3n+o(n) when nn is even; the theorem of Kohayakawa, Simonovits and Skokan [KSS05] establishing the conjecture once nn is odd and large enough; and the exact value 2n2n that Benevides and Skokan [BeSk09] obtained for large even nn. The site files the problem as the 25th Ramsey-theory entry of its graphs collection. The discussion thread has two comments: one of 1 September 2025 observing that the problem is reduced to checking finitely many nn and so is decidable while still open; and one of 13 July 2026 pointing out that the statement is false for n=3n=3 since R3(C3)=R(3,3,3)=17>9R_3(C_3)=R(3,3,3)=17>9, that OEIS A389335 and Radziszowski's "Small Ramsey Numbers" survey state the conjecture with n≥4n\ge4, that Erdős's 1981 formulation likewise gives no restriction, and asking that n≥4n\ge4 be added. The proof-claim tab is empty. The community database record (as of 2026-10-06) says decidable (last updated 31 August 2025), not formalized, OEIS A389335.

Origin. The site's source [Er81c] states the problem in Erdős's own words (printed p. 13): "Following some preliminary results of Bondy and myself, V. Rosta and independently Faudree and Schelp determined r(Cn,Cm)r(C_n,C_m) for every nn and mm. Bondy and I conjectured r(Cn,Cn,Cn)≤4n−3r(C_n,C_n,C_n)\le4n-3, (15) which is still open. For odd nn, (15), if true, is best possible." No restriction on nn is printed, which is the wording the site reproduces. Section 4 of [BoEr73] (printed p. 53) states, for kk colors and odd nn, that "It is easy to see" R(Cn,…,Cn)≥2k−1(n−1)+1R(C_n,\ldots,C_n)\ge2^{k-1}(n-1)+1 and "we can show" R(Cn,…,Cn)≤(k+2)! nR(C_n,\ldots,C_n)\le(k+2)!\,n, with no proof and without calling equality a conjecture (result page); for k=3k=3 the lower bound is 4n−34n-3. The equality conjecture for odd n>3n>3 is attributed to that paper by [KSS05] (p. 2, display (2)), by [BeSk09] (p. 2, display (1)) and, as "attributed to Bondy and Erdős", by [JeSk21] (p. 2, Conjecture 1.1, for every k≥2k\ge2). The site's other source key, [Er81] (Part V, display (3), p. 9 of the re-typeset copy), prints the same conjecture, again with no restriction on nn: "Bondy and I [7] conjectured (3) r(Cn,Cn,Cn)≤4n−3r(C_n,C_n,C_n)\le4n-3. It is easy to see that if (3) is true then for odd nn it is best possible." (its [7] is [BoEr73])

The odd case. [KSS05] Theorem 1 (report p. 2): there exists n0n_0 such that for all odd n1,n2,n3>n0n_1,n_2,n_3>n_0, R(Cn1,Cn2,Cn3)=4max⁡{n1,n2,n3}−3R(C_{n_1},C_{n_2},C_{n_3})=4\max\{n_1,n_2,n_3\}-3; in particular R3(Cn)=4n−3R_3(C_n)=4n-3 for odd n>n0n>n_0. Claim 2 (p. 4) gives the lower bound 4n−34n-3 for every odd nn from the colorings EC1(n−1)EC_1(n-1) and EC2(n−1)EC_2(n-1) of K4(n−1)K_{4(n-1)}; the upper bound comes from the stability Theorem 3 (p. 5), proved by the regularity method, and n0n_0 is not made explicit. Acceptance evidence: the 38-page report is not refereed; the GRACO2005 extended abstract appeared in Electron. Notes Discrete Math. 19 (2005), a proceedings series not shown to referee its abstracts, so the claim page is claimed; the same statement is proved again, for every kk, in [JeSk21] Theorem 1.2 (Adv. Math., refereed; arXiv text p. 2), which the authors describe as a stability-type strengthening "generalising the main result from [KSS05]" and which says that, because of compactness arguments, "we obtain no effective bound on how large nn must be". [Lu99]'s asymptotic R3(Cn)=4n+o(n)R_3(C_n)=4n+o(n) for odd nn is quoted from [KSS05] (3) and [BeSk09] p. 2. Read depth: claims checked for Theorem 1, Claim 2 and Theorem 3 of [KSS05] and for Theorem 1.2 of [JeSk21]; no proof was read.

Łuczak's bounds. The theorem of [Lu99], as its title, abstract and zbMATH review (Zbl 0934.05091) state it, is R3(Cn)≤(4+o(1))nR_3(C_n)\le(4+o(1))n for every nn, with asymptotic equality for odd nn. It settles no instance of R3(Cn)≤4n−3R_3(C_n)\le4n-3, so it has no claim page. The even-nn bound 3n+o(n)3n+o(n) that the site's commentary credits to the paper is stated in neither the abstract nor the review; the exact even value 2n2n for large nn is the theorem of [BeSk09] below.

The even case. [BeSk09] Theorem 1 (report p. 2): there exists an integer n1n_1 such that for every even n>n1n>n_1, R(Cn,Cn,Cn)=2nR(C_n,C_n,C_n)=2n; Lemma 2 (p. 3) gives R(Cn,Cn,Cn)>2n−1R(C_n,C_n,C_n)>2n-1 for all even n≥4n\ge4 by an explicit coloring of K2n−1K_{2n-1}. Since 2n≤4n−32n\le4n-3 for n≥2n\ge2, the problem's inequality holds for all even n>n1n>n_1 with a large margin, and the site's remark that the bound is sharp only for odd nn is right: for even nn the truth is 2n2n. Acceptance evidence: J. Combin. Theory Ser. B 99 (2009), 690--708, refereed; the locators are the CDAM report's, which was not compared with the journal text. n1n_1 is not made explicit. Read depth: claims checked for Theorem 1 and Lemma 2; no proof was read.

Small nn and the residue. OEIS A389335 lists R(Cn,Cn,Cn)=17,11,17,12,25,16R(C_n,C_n,C_n)=17,11,17,12,25,16 for n=3,…,8n=3,\ldots,8 (the entry cites [BoEr73], [Lu99], [KSS05], [BeSk09] and Radziszowski's survey; the values were not traced to them). Against 4n−3=9,13,17,21,25,294n-3=9,13,17,21,25,29 the inequality fails at n=3n=3 and holds for 4≤n≤84\le n\le8, with equality at n=5n=5 and n=7n=7 as the odd case predicts. The thresholds are not made explicit: [KSS05], [BeSk09] and Jenssen and Skokan all use the regularity method and name no n0n_0, and Jenssen and Skokan add that their compactness argument gives no effective bound. The uncovered range is therefore 9≤n≤max⁡{n0,n1}9\le n\le\max\{n_0,n_1\} with both thresholds unknown, and no source found closes any nn in it. So the corrected Statement is true for 4≤n≤84\le n\le8 and for all nn beyond the thresholds and unchecked in between, which is the finite check the site's label refers to; the site's wording also fails at n=3n=3, where the corrected Statement makes no claim (Notes above).

Adjacent results (not status). For k≥4k\ge4 colors and odd nn, [LSS12] (abstract) gives Rk(Cn)≤k2kn+o(n)R_k(C_n)\le k2^kn+o(n), and for even nn, Rk(Cn)≤kn+o(n)R_k(C_n)\le kn+o(n); [JeSk21] settles the odd case exactly for every fixed kk and large nn (Problem 554 concerns the opposite regime, nn fixed and k→∞k\to\infty, where the formula fails by a result of Day and Johnson quoted on p. 2 of [JeSk21]). The multicolor even-cycle question is Problem 555.

Search scope. None of the routes below found a source closing the residue, an effective threshold, a disproof beyond n=3n=3 or a proof claim.

  • The site: problem page, discussion thread and proof-claim tab; the community database record; the formal-conjectures directory (no file 556).
  • The primary sources as stated: [KSS05] report pp. 2--5 and [BeSk09] report pp. 2--3; [BoEr73] p. 53 and [Er81c] pp. 12--13; [JeSk21] pp. 1--3.
  • OEIS A389335 (JSON record).
  • arXiv API metadata searches: abs:Ramsey AND abs:"odd cycles" together with the four spellings of "three-colored" (none), abs:"Ramsey number" AND abs:cycles AND abs:Bondy (seven records: the multicolor odd-cycle upper bounds of Lin and Chen 2015 and Axenovich et al. 2025, Gallai--Ramsey numbers, [JeSk21]), abs:"multicolour Ramsey" AND abs:cycles (one record, paths and even cycles); the abstract of 1005.3926.
  • Crossref: the records of [BeSk09] and [KSS05] (bibliographic queries) and [Lu99] (DOI).
  • Semantic Scholar: the citation list of [BeSk09] (64 records, scanned by title: bipartite and Gallai--Ramsey variants, connected matchings, mixed-parity cycles; nothing on the three-color odd case below the thresholds).

Not searched: MathSciNet, Google Scholar, X; zbMATH only for the review of [Lu99] (Zbl 0934.05091). Unread: the text of [Lu99]; the sources of the OEIS values (Radziszowski's survey); [Er81c] beyond pp. 12--13; the journal texts of [BeSk09] and [JeSk21]; the GRACO2005 abstract.

Remaining gaps. (1) The residue 9≤n≤max⁡{n0,n1}9\le n\le\max\{n_0,n_1\} of the corrected Statement is open in the sources found and the thresholds are not made explicit; reopening condition: an explicit n0n_0 or n1n_1, or a source treating the small odd or even nn. (2) The site's wording is false at n=3n=3; the page judges the corrected Statement for n>3n>3, which the site's label DECIDABLE describes. (3) Proof coverage is statements only: Theorem 1 of [KSS05], Theorem 1 of [BeSk09] and Theorem 1.2 of [JeSk21] are recorded at claims checked; the full proof of the odd case is a research report and a 46-page journal paper, neither read beyond its statements; nothing is independently reviewed in this corpus. (4) The values for n≤8n\le8 rest on OEIS and were not traced to their sources. The navigation block below is derived from the library links and is not progress.

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