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Problem 1134
claims/: The 2 claim pages of Problem 1134, one per claimant's result; the problem's standing derives from them.
Statement. Let be the smallest set which contains and is closed under the operations
and
Does have positive lower density?
Status. DISPROVED (LEAN). Crampin and Hilton answered the question in the negative in 1972 without publishing; Lagarias's Theorem 6 ([La16], refereed) is the published reconstruction, giving with , so has density zero. The site's curator, Thomas Bloom, records this as the resolution. The claim page Lagarias 2016 records the acceptance. The site's (LEAN) suffix is its catalog label; the outside Lean files it rests on are described under Formalization and on the claim pages, none of them built by this corpus.
Source. erdosproblems.com/1134, accessed 2026-09-04. Cite as: T. F. Bloom, Erdős Problem #1134, https://www.erdosproblems.com/1134.
References.
- [Gu04] Guy, Richard K., Unsolved problems in number theory. Third edition, Problem Books in Mathematics, Springer (2004), xviii+437 pp. Section E36 "Klarner--Rado sequences", printed p. 361: the sequence 1, 2, 4, 5, 8, 9, 10, 14, ... that "is the thinnest which contains 1, and whenever it contains , also contains , and . Does it have positive density?"; the printed generators differ from the statement's , , , and no equivalence is claimed here; [La16] pp. 771--772 identifies Guy's generators as Klarner's free semigroup (its Theorem 11), a corrected variant of Erdős's problem posed by Klarner in 1982, and reports its density question unanswered, so the two problems are distinct. Library home: guy_2004_unsolved_problems_number_theory.
- [Gu83b] Guy, Richard K., Unsolved Problems: Don't Try to Solve These Problems. Amer. Math. Monthly (1983), 35-38+39-41.
- [Kl82] Klarner, David A., A sufficient condition for certain semigroups to be free. J. Algebra (1982), 140-148.
- [KlRa74] Klarner, D. A. and Rado, R., Arithmetic properties of certain recursively defined sets. Pacific J. Math. 53 (1974), no. 2, 445--463, doi:10.2140/pjm.1974.53.445.
- [La16] Lagarias, Jeffrey C., Erdős, Klarner, and the problem. Amer. Math. Monthly 123 (2016), no. 8, 753--776, doi:10.4169/amer.math.monthly.123.08.753 as printed (JSTOR's stable identifier is 10.4169/amer.math.monthly.123.8.753). Section 7, printed p. 766, poses the statement's question as the "Erdős Positive Density Problem", for which Erdős offered a prize in 1972, and reports that Crampin and Hilton answered it in the negative soon afterwards without publishing; Theorem 6 (p. 767) is the paper's reconstructed proof that the set has at most elements up to with , so density zero. Sections 3--5 (pp. 755--761) give the history and Erdős's orbit-size bound (Theorem 3, p. 759), which makes the two-generator set of density zero but gives nothing for the three generators since . Library home: lagarias_2016_erdos_klarner_3x1_problem; result pages Theorem 6 and Theorem 3.
Formalization. The discussion thread's first post (19 June 2026) links
a Lean 4 proof of lowerDensity (setOf ErdosSetA) = 0 in the repository
AxiomMath/erdos-public, produced by AxiomProver, Axiom Math's prover, as
the post names it; the file names no informal author, so it is an
independent proof with its own claim page,
AxiomMath 2026,
which pins and describes it. A copy with a header naming Crampin and Hilton
as the informal authors is in the repository plby/lean-proofs, pinned and
described on the claim page
Lagarias 2016,
and the formal-conjectures file
ErdosProblems/1134.lean,
added on 19 September 2026, states three things. It states the question
under category research solved with a formal_proof attribute pointing at
that copy. It states the bound as a solved
variant whose formal_proof points at the copy's Dirichlet.lean module.
It states Klarner's variant as open. It is a statement file, not a proof.
Lagarias's claim page also records the thread's second post (20 September
2026), a Lean proof claimed for the Klarner variant with generators ,
, , not the site's statement. The corpus has built none of these
files.
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Linked library material
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- klarner_1974_arithmetic_properties_certain_recursively_defined_sets
- klarner_1974_arithmetic_properties_certain_recursively_defined_sets / theorem_8
- kolpakov_2022_free_semigroups_affine_maps_real_line
- kolpakov_2022_free_semigroups_affine_maps_real_line / theorem_3
- guy_2004_unsolved_problems_number_theory
- lagarias_2003_annotated_bibliography_1
- lagarias_2010_problem_overview
- lagarias_2010_problem_overview / problem_p4
- lagarias_2016_erdos_klarner_3x1_problem
- lagarias_2016_erdos_klarner_3x1_problem / theorem_3
- lagarias_2016_erdos_klarner_3x1_problem / theorem_6