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Problem 720
claims/: The 2 claim pages of Problem 720, one per claimant's result; the problem's standing derives from them.
Statement. Let denote the size Ramsey number, the minimal number of edges such that there is a graph with edges such that in any -colouring of the edges of there is a monochromatic copy of .
Is it true that, if is the path of length , then
and
Is it true that, if is the cycle with edges, then
Formulation. The site's wording as accessed 2026-09-18 (page last edited 7 March 2026). The page asks three questions, written here as (i) , (ii) and (iii) . The site writes the size Ramsey number ; the sources write or , and the paper that introduced it, [EFRS78b], reserves for , so quotations below keep the sources' . Whether has edges (the site, [Er78], [Er81], [Er81c], [Er82e]) or vertices ([EFRS78b], [JKOP19]) changes nothing in the three questions. The origin, [EFRS78b] (p. 161), asks whether exists and whether is an -sequence, that is , which is (ii); Erdős's problem papers of 1978--1982 pose (i) and (ii) as the site does, and [Er82e] adds the expectation , which is (iii). No source read poses (iii) as a question in [EFRS78b], which says nothing about cycles.
Status. The site labels the problem PROVED, a label that attaches to the resolution of the problem: the answers are no to (i) and yes to (ii) and (iii), because both size Ramsey numbers are linear. Paths: Beck [Be83b] proved for large ; the paper is not held, and the bound is quoted from the introduction of the refereed paper [JKOP19] (p. 2), from Beck's own 1990 sequel [Be90] (p. 34) and from Erdős's report of 1982 [Er82e] (p. 70); [DrPe22] (p. 1) attests only that Beck's bound is linear, without the constant. Cycles: the first published proof of in the sources read is Corollary 11 of [HKL95] (Combin. Probab. Comput. 4 (1995), refereed), which gives the induced and multicolor bound ; that paper's preprint attributes the plain linear bound to Bollobás, Burr and an unnamed third person, named Reimer in the published abstract, as a personal communication of November 1992, while [Er82e] credits Beck with as an unpublished result in 1982, which is the site's attribution. The site's label PROVED belongs to this resolution and is recorded here; the first question's answer is no. The frontmatter standing derives from the claim pages Beck 1983 (the path bound, covering (i) and (ii); the site also credits the paper with the cycle bound, which the sources read do not attest, so the page does not claim it) and Haxell, Kohayakawa and Łuczak 1995 (the induced bound for cycles, with the induced paths it gives, answering all three questions), which record the results, their postings and their acceptance evidence. The frontmatter lists the three questions as the problem's parts. Haxell, Kohayakawa and Łuczak's accepted full claim answers all three, and Beck's accepted partial claim answers (i) and (ii), so the derived standing is solved. The derived claim is answered, because the answers are no to (i) and yes to (ii) and (iii). Erdős offered a prize for a proof or disproof of the pair (i)--(ii) in [Er81], p. 9 of the re-typeset copy, after offering separate prizes for each and for an asymptotic formula in [Er78], p. 33.
Source. erdosproblems.com/720, accessed 2026-09-18: the problem page (PROVED; last edited 7 March 2026; source keys [Er76c, p. 5], [EFRS78b], [Er78, p. 33], [Er81], [Er82e]; commentary citing [Be83b] and Problem 559; OEIS "Possible"), its empty discussion thread and its empty proof-claim tab. Cite as: T. F. Bloom, Erdős Problem #720, https://www.erdosproblems.com/720, accessed 2026-09-18.
References.
- [EFRS78b] Erdős, P., Faudree, R. J., Rousseau, C. C. and Schelp, R. H., The size Ramsey number. Period. Math. Hungar. 9 (1978), no. 1--2, 145--161, doi:10.1007/BF02018930 (received 16 March 1976). The definitions, p. 146; the path passage, p. 161. Library home: erdos_1978_size_ramsey_number; the passage is recorded on its Section 8 page.
- [Be83b] Beck, J., On size Ramsey number of paths, trees, and circuits. I. J. Graph Theory 7 (1983), no. 1, 115--129, doi:10.1002/jgt.3190070115 (Crossref record accessed). Not held here; quoted second-hand as stated.
- [Be90] Beck, J., On size Ramsey number of paths, trees and circuits. II. Mathematics of Ramsey theory, Algorithms Combin. 5, Springer, Berlin (1990), 34--45. Library home: beck_1990_size_ramsey_number_paths_trees_circuits_ii; its introduction (pp. 34--36) and the end of Section 5 (pp. 44--45) are the basis here, the attestation on its remark_p34 page and Theorem 3 on its theorem_3 page. Its display (1) attests "(see Beck 1983 ...)", its Theorems 1--2 concern trees, and its Theorem 3 gives ; those pages say nothing about cycles.
- [HKL95] Haxell, P. E., Kohayakawa, Y. and Łuczak, T., The induced size-Ramsey number of cycles. Combin. Probab. Comput. 4 (1995), no. 3, 217--239, doi:10.1017/S0963548300001619 (Crossref record accessed). Theorem 10 and Corollary 11, preprint p. 11; the attribution, p. 3 and reference [6], p. 21. Library home: haxell_1995_induced_size_ramsey_number_cycles (the authors' preprint, without journal pagination).
- [JKOP19] Javadi, R., Khoeini, F., Omidi, G. R. and Pokrovskiy, A., On the size-Ramsey number of cycles. Combin. Probab. Comput. 28 (2019), no. 6, 871--880, doi:10.1017/S0963548319000221 (Crossref record accessed); arXiv:1701.07348v1 (25 January 2017). Theorem 1.1 and the introduction, p. 2. Library home: javadi_2019_size_ramsey_number_cycles.
- [DrPe22] Draganić, N. and Petrova, K., Size-Ramsey numbers of graphs with maximum degree three. arXiv:2207.05048v2 (19 September 2025); J. London Math. Soc. (2) 111 (2025), no. 3, e70116. The attestation, p. 1. Library home: draganic_2022_size_ramsey_numbers_graphs_maximum_degree.
- [Er76c] Erdős, P., Some recent problems and results in graph theory, combinatorics and number theory. Proceedings of the Seventh Southeastern Conference on Combinatorics, Graph Theory and Computing (Louisiana State Univ., Baton Rouge, La., 1976), 3--14, as the formal-conjectures statement file for this problem cites it; the site cites p. 5. Not held.
- [Er78] Erdős, P., Problems and results in combinatorial analysis and combinatorial number theory. Proc. Ninth Southeastern Conf. (Boca Raton, 1978), Congr. Numer. XXI (1978), 29--40; Section 4, printed p. 33. Library home: erdos_1978_problems_results_combinatorial_analysis_combinatorial_number.
- [Er81] Erdős, P., On the combinatorial problems which I would most like to see solved. Combinatorica 1 (1981), no. 1, 25--42; Part V, display (4), on p. 9 of the re-typeset copy, which has its own pagination. Library home: erdos_1981_combinatorial_problems_which_i_would_most.
- [Er81c] Erdős, P., Some new problems and results in graph theory and other branches of combinatorial mathematics. Combinatorics and graph theory (Calcutta, 1980), Lecture Notes in Math. 885 (1981), 9--17; display (17), printed p. 14. Not a source key of this problem on the site; it restates (i) and (ii). Library home: erdos_1981_new_problems_results_graph_theory_other.
- [Er82e] Erdős, P., Some of my favourite problems which recently have been solved. Proc. Int. Math. Conf. (Singapore, 1981), North-Holland Math. Stud. 74 (1982), 59--79; Section 3, printed p. 70 and the first line of p. 71. Library home: erdos_1982_my_favourite_problems_which_recently_have.
- [DuPr15] Dudek, A. and Prałat, P., An alternative proof of the linearity of the size-Ramsey number of paths. Combin. Probab. Comput. 24 (2015), 551--555; arXiv:1405.1663 (). Not held; abstract accessed. Their later bound for sufficiently large is quoted from [JKOP19], p. 2.
- [BaDe19] Bal, D. and DeBiasio, L., New lower bounds on the size-Ramsey number of a path. arXiv:1909.06354 (Electron. J. Combin., per the citation index). Not held; abstract accessed: every graph with at most edges has a two-coloring with no monochromatic path of order .
Formalization. The statement file
FormalConjectures/ErdosProblems/720.lean
of google-deepmind/formal-conjectures, added on 21 September 2026 and linked
here at the commit that added it, states the three questions as
erdos_720.parts.i (answer False), erdos_720.parts.ii and
erdos_720.parts.iii (answer True) and a variant erdos_720.variants.beck
giving both linear bounds, every one marked research solved and carrying a
formal_proof annotation that points at
src/latest/ErdosProblems/Erdos720.lean
of Boris Alexeev's lean-proofs at its commit of 15 September 2026. That file
declares itself a formalization of a solution to the problem, names Beck as
the informal author and Codex and GPT-5.6 Sol as the formal authors, and is
linked on Beck's claim page as a formalization of his result; it attributes
the cycle bound to Beck as well. None of this Lean was built or audited in
this corpus, so no claim page lists formalized evidence. The statement file
postdates 2026-09-18, when the directory held no file for the problem and the
community database recorded the problem proved (last changed 31 August 2025)
and not formalized; the community database
records it formalized from 21 September 2026, and the site's "Formalised
statement?" indicator reads "Yes".
Current assessment
The question (site formulation of 2026-09-18). The statement above; status PROVED; last edited 7 March 2026; with a prize. The commentary attributes the problem to Erdős, Faudree, Rousseau and Schelp [EFRS78b], credits the answer to Beck [Be83b] with both linear bounds, and , and points to Problem 559 for the general question on graphs of bounded maximum degree. There are no comments and no proof claims. The community database record says proved (31 August 2025) and formalized from 21 September 2026 (see Formalization.).
Origin. [EFRS78b] (printed pp. 146, 160 and 161) defines , and -sequences (p. 146) and closes its Section 8 (p. 161) with: "Determination of the exact size Ramsey number for even a simple graph like a path, , on vertices seems quite difficult. It is well known (see [6]) that . In [5] it is shown that . Thus . It would be interesting to know if exists, and if so determine its value. An easier but still apparently difficult question is to determine if is an -sequence." ([5] is Faudree and Schelp, J. Combin. Theory Ser. B 19 (1975), not held; [6] is Gerencsér and Gyárfás, 1967, whose Theorem 1 with paths of edges in both colors gives .) Erdős then posed the site's form repeatedly: [Er78], p. 33 (Section 4): "The most annoying problem is to determine or estimate , where is a path of length . We could not even prove that (2) and (3) . I give 25 dollars for a proof or disproof of either (2) or (3) (i.e. 50 for both) and 100 dollars for an asymptotic formula for "; [Er81], p. 9 of the re-typeset copy (Part V): "A problem of Faudree, Rousseau, Schelp and myself: Let be the smallest integer for which there is a graph of edges so that if we color the edges of with two colors, there is always a monochromatic path of length . Is it true that (4) , ?", after which Erdős records that the authors made no progress on (4), that settling (4) must come before any asymptotic formula or estimate for , and that he offers a prize for a proof or disproof of (4); [Er81c], p. 14, display (17): "Is it true that but ?"; and [Er82e], p. 70 (Section 3): "Here I only state a problem of Faudree, Rousseau, Schelp and myself which has recently been settled by J. Beck. ... We asked for a determination or estimation of and . We expected that ( is a path of length and a cycle of edges.) but . J. Beck in fact proved : (1) , . The best possible values of the constants are not yet known. Beck further proved various extensions of (1) for trees", followed on p. 71 by "The results of Beck have not yet been published." The site's three questions are thus (i) and (ii) from Erdős's problem papers and (iii) from the expectation recorded in [Er82e]; the original [EFRS78b] question is the existence of , not its divergence.
The three answers.
- (i) : no. for large by [Be83b], a paper not held here; a linear bound also follows from [HKL95], under (iii). Attestations: [JKOP19], p. 2: "In 1983 Beck [5], showed that for sufficiently large , where is a path on vertices", the passage going on to say that this showed the size Ramsey number of paths to be linear in the number of vertices, that several authors then reduced the constant, and that the best upper bound known to them is Dudek and Prałat's for large ; [DrPe22], p. 1: "Already in 1983, answering a $100 question of Erdős, Beck [4] showed that there is such a graph with only linearly many edges, which is evidently best possible"; [Be90], p. 34: display (1), for every sufficiently large , "(see Beck 1983, actually it was proved that the 'greater colour' contains a copy of )"; and [Er82e] as quoted. A linear upper bound is the negation of (i). Since the ratio is also bounded below (trivially ; [Be90] Theorem 3 gives and [BaDe19] , abstract only), the original question of [EFRS78b], whether exists, is not answered by these bounds and no source read decides it.
- (ii) : yes, from the same linear bound, as . In the words of [EFRS78b], is an -sequence, since has order (from , p. 161). The trivial upper bound of p. 161 does not suffice for (ii).
- (iii) : yes, since . First-hand source: Theorem 10 of [HKL95] (preprint p. 11): for fixed there are depending only on such that for every sufficiently large some graph of order and size has, in every -edge-coloring, a color containing induced monochromatic cycles of every length between and , whence Corollary 11, , and in two colors . Page 3 of the same paper: "Theorem 10 immediately implies that for any fixed , a result proved by Bollobás, Burr, and" a third person the preprint leaves unnamed and the published abstract names as Reimer, citing Bollobás's personal communication of November 1992 (reference [6]); "Our proof of Theorem 10 may be considerably simplified to give a direct proof of this result." Explicit constants: Theorem 1.1 of [JKOP19]; in two colors the published version gives for large with for even and for odd (its abstract), improving the of the 2017 arXiv v1 (abstract, p. 1), whose for even comes from its Theorem 3.6 (p. 12) and for odd from its Theorem 3.4 (p. 11), not from Theorem 1.1; Bradač, Draganić and Sudakov (arXiv:2301.10160, Combinatorica 2023 per the citation index; abstract only) give for odd in colors. The attribution of the cycle bound is unsettled in the sources read: [Er82e] credits Beck (1982, unpublished then), the site credits [Be83b], [HKL95] credit a 1992 personal communication and give the first published proof found here; whether [Be83b], whose title names circuits, contains a cycle theorem could not be checked. This is an attribution question, not a status one.
The label. The site's PROVED attaches to the resolution of the problem by the linear bounds, while the literal first question is answered in the negative; the label is recorded in Status., the frontmatter standing derives from the claim pages, which together settle the problem's three parts, and the three answers stand above. The wording is not degenerate: each question is meaningful and the pair (i)--(ii) is exactly what Erdős asked and paid for.
Search scope. None of the routes below found a source contradicting the linear bounds or a copy of [Be83b].
- The site: problem page, discussion thread and proof-claim tab; the full directory listing of formal-conjectures (no file at that date); the community database record.
- The primary sources: [EFRS78b] pp. 146, 160--161, [Er78] p. 33, [Er81] p. 9, [Er81c] p. 14, [Er82e] pp. 70--71, [HKL95] pp. 3, 11 and 21, [JKOP19] p. 2 (and pp. 11--12), [DrPe22] p. 1 and [Be90] pp. 34--35 and 44--45.
- The publisher's page of [Be83b], which offers no open copy; the Crossref records of [Be83b], [EFRS78b], [HKL95] and [JKOP19].
- arXiv: the API listings of 1701.07348 (v1 latest) and 2207.05048 (v2 of 19
September 2025 latest); the searches
("size Ramsey" OR "size-Ramsey") AND (path OR paths OR cycle OR cycles)(37 records),("size-Ramsey number" OR "size Ramsey number") AND path AND "lower bound"(7 records) andabs:"size Ramsey" OR abs:"size-Ramsey"sorted by date (100 records); the abstracts of 1405.1663, 1909.06354, 2301.10160, 2308.16647 and 2511.16656 (Beke, Li and Sahasrabudhe, the -color size Ramsey number of the path up to constants); none changes the answers. - Semantic Scholar: the citing papers of [Be83b] (about 190 records; the 2024--2026 titles scanned, none a new bound for or in two colors beyond those above) and of [HKL95] (about 95 records, scanned by title).
Not searched: MathSciNet, Google Scholar, X. Unread: [Be83b], [Er76c], [DuPr15] and [BaDe19] beyond their abstracts, Faudree and Schelp 1975, the journal texts of [HKL95] and [JKOP19].
Remaining gaps. (1) [Be83b], the status-defining paper for the path bound, is not held; the bound rests on four independent attestations quoted above. Reopening condition: a copy of J. Graph Theory 7 (1983), 115--129. (2) The first proof of is not identified from the sources' own texts; [HKL95] is the refereed proof paged here. (3) The original question of [EFRS78b], whether exists, is open in the sources read, with the ratio between and for large (both bounds second-hand or abstract-only). (4) [Er76c] is not held. (5) Proof coverage: claims checked only; no proof was reviewed. The Linked library material below is derived from the library links and is not progress.
Linked library material
These entries are derived from explicit links on library pages. They are navigation only and do not by themselves record mathematical progress.
- erdos_1982_my_favourite_problems_which_recently_have
- erdos_1978_problems_results_combinatorial_analysis_combinatorial_number
- beck_1990_size_ramsey_number_paths_trees_circuits_ii
- beck_1990_size_ramsey_number_paths_trees_circuits_ii / remark_p34
- beck_1990_size_ramsey_number_paths_trees_circuits_ii / theorem_3
- draganic_2022_size_ramsey_numbers_graphs_maximum_degree
- erdos_1978_size_ramsey_number
- erdos_1978_size_ramsey_number / section_8
- erdos_1981_new_problems_results_graph_theory_other
- gerencser_1967_ramsey_type_problems
- gerencser_1967_ramsey_type_problems / theorem_1
- haxell_1995_induced_size_ramsey_number_cycles
- haxell_1995_induced_size_ramsey_number_cycles / corollary_11
- javadi_2019_size_ramsey_number_cycles
- javadi_2019_size_ramsey_number_cycles / theorem_1_1
- erdos_1981_combinatorial_problems_which_i_would_most